On Friday 11 September 2009 04:14:58 am Nuzhna Pomoshch wrote:
> --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Maciek Kaliszewski <maciek.kaliszew...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> 
> > Simply stated, I have NO idea what you really want. In
> > other words, what specific situation would make you happy?
> 
> I thought I made that quite clear, but for your benefit, I
> will state it again. Either a binary that will run on a
> generic distribution compiled with gcc 4 or USB support in
> the open source edition.

Please try again.  Identify your Host System.  Identify your Guest 
System.  Identify the proposed Application.  Identify the problems you 
are seeing, and what would constitute success.

> 
> > In my view (which may well be defective at this point)
> > VirtualBox and USB are ENTIRELY unrelated.  Let me
> > explain that remark.
> 
> Have you ever read any of the documentation (like this page)?
> 
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
> 
> > Now install, as a second Guest System, something such as
> > Windows XP Pro.  Did WinXPPro support USB?  Most of the
> > time, yes.  Does it here in VirtualBox?  Same answer.
> 
> Not in the open source edition.

You just might be correct about your completely unspecified environment 
-- but you are WRONG to generalize thusly.  I have had it working in 
Kubuntu Jaunty, VBox 2.1.4_OSE (that DOES mean "Open Source Edition", or 
so I suspect.), and Windows XP Pro.

> 
> > Concerning your "compiled binaries", I have no business
> > making any comment beyond this.  You make it sound as if
> > you are running something that nobody else is running --
> > and asking us if YOUR stuff will work.
> 
> That is completely erroneous. I am running a very common
> combination of the system toolchain (neither archaic nor
> cutting edge). The "generic" virtualbox binary requires
> gcc 3, which, while it still "works" (so does DOS 6.22),
> IS archaic.
> 
> > That sounds one step short of silly to me; after all,
> > how would anyone be able to know from experience if a
> > totally customized system will work ANYwhere!
> 
> There is a broad (but not perfect) level of compatibility
> across versions of the system toolchain. These are well-
> known. So are incompatibilities. Applications compiled
> with gcc 3 will not work on a system with only gcc 4
> libraries (and vice versa).
> 
> > Remember that Virtualbox is available -- even in the
> > latest (3.0.6) version -- for absolutely NO money at
> > all.  If you can customize a "distro" that highly, you
> > should be able to make most of it work in VirtualBox. 
> > Try it out.  If you CAN'T make it work, simply
> > uninstall it and go back to whatever works for you.
> 
> I can't make the generic version to work on the machines
> I need to have it work on.

Then just skip it.

> 
> > And it is opensource :-) , if some feature is closed
> > nothing can stop you from implementing it and release on
> > opensource basis . VirtualBox OSE is AFAIR GPL'ed
> 
> Yes indeed, but adding USB support to the open source
> edition (aside from reinventing the wheel) would not be an
> efficient use of my time.

Then just WHAT would make it worth the time of someone else?

> 
> > From my part I want express my gratitude to Sun for
> > Openoffice ,Vbox , etc.:-)
> 
> I am grateful, too, but I would be a lot more grateful if
> they would offer a gcc 4 compiled version of each release. :)

Frank has mentioned several versions for a variety of distros.  You 
don't want one more version -- you want to double the versions.  If it 
isn't worth your time to help, then I hope you will find something that 
IS worth your time.

> 
> > I hope this attitude  will not change after takeover by
> > Oracle :-)
> 
> Oracle has worked with open source for a long time, and they
> certainly have no motivation to change the status quo.
> 
> Nuzhna


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