Hi Roman;

Clear-text passwords are just that.  It's more of an administrative tool for
you that allows you to see what the customers password is.  It's viewable
via the vuserinfo command.  However, if you want to use this, you need to
follow the upgrade instructions in UPGRADE.tren as you're migrating from
4.9.10.  Learning passwords *only* work for pop3 at the moment.  What
happens is, is when you create a new user, you add the -n flag:

~vpopmail/bin/vadduser -n [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This will set a blank password for the user.  The _first_ time they use pop3
to retrieve their email (only the pop3 daemon supplied by vpopmail.  This
functionality is not working in courier-imap or sqwebmail...yet...ken, have
you updated the preauthvchkpw.c yet to handle this?  You'd stated there were
some changes you wanted to get off to Sam) it will learn and update their
password into the mysql database (or cdb database).  If a customer loses
their password, you can just blank out the password field in the database
for that user, and they can reset their password.  It's nice because you
don't have to have the customer come up with a password on the spot.

One word of warning though on the learn passwords feature.  If they are
connecting via courier-imap or sqwebmail and no password has been set, it
will take *any* password and let them in.  It doesn't really care.  It will
be this way until preauthvchkpw.c is updated to handle this functionality.
With SQWebmail, I just had my users change their passwords via the "change
password" fields on the preferences screen.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Tren

-----Original Message-----
From: Roman Serbski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:28 PM
To: Tren Blackburn
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: --enable-large-site=y and vpopmail 5.0


Hi Tren!

Thank you for your answer. It helps a lot.
Could you be so kind to explain features you mentioned before?
I read a lot about "learning passwords" and "clear-text password"
features from this mailing list, but do not have clear picture what is it.
I guess it will be helpful for those of us who are going to migrate to
5.0 soon. :)
My users mostly use web access (horde/imp) - so as I understood they
will be prompted to provide password first time they login right?

Thank you.
Regards,
Roman

Tren Blackburn wrote:
> If you want to change your schema from small site, to large site, I would
> recommend you do the conversion while you're at 4.9.10 using the vconvert
> tool as this tool does not work for mysql database backend under 5.0 (Ken,
> any time frame on this working again?)  It should be pretty simple, just
do:
>
> ~vpopmail/bin/vconvert -s -l
>
> This will take you from small site to large site.
>
> Also as an FYI, the --enable-large-site=y has been depreciated in vpopmail
5
> and replaced with --enable-many-domains=n
>
> If you want to use the clear-text passwords option in vpopmail 5, I would
> highly recommend you go through the UPGRADE.tren file included with the
> vpopmail 5 distribution as it will walk you through the necessary
> conversions to you mysql tables to support the extra field.  I'd also
> recommend turning on the learning passwords feature (*plug*) as it's a
very
> nice feature.  Make the user with a blank password and first time they pop
> in, it sets their password.
>
> I hope this information helps, but just remember, convert to large site
> format under 4.9.10 first, test, then upgrade.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tren.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roman Serbski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: --enable-large-site=y and vpopmail 5.0
>
>
> Good day.
>
> I'm planning to upgrade Vpopmail 4.9.10 to 5.0 (final beta). I use MySQL
> authorization and plan to add --enable-large-site=y while compiling
> Vpopmail 5.0. I *didn't* use "--enable-large-site=y" feature in 4.9.10
> before. FAQ says that process of upgrading is approx. similiar to fresh
> install - download sources - compile - done :). Is it true for migration
> from 4.9.10 to 5.0?
> In other words, adding support for large-site will definitely
> rebuild/remake vpopmail's DB in MySQL (make it one table per domain).
> Right now I have all domains/users in one table (vpopmail), do I have to
> change settings of database (vpopmail) manually or everything will be
> fixed up by vpopmail? :)
>
> OS: FreeBSD 4.4 STABLE, MySQL 3.23.28
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Regards,
> Roman
>
>
>
>



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