Hello Patrick, Friday, May 21, 2004, 9:34:30 PM, you wrote:
PD> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PD> Hello Erwin, PD> Friday, May 21, 2004, 7:37:15 PM, you wrote: EH>> Hi, EH>> At 17:21 21.05.04 +0200, you wrote: PD> Hello Erwin, PD> Friday, May 21, 2004, 5:14:30 PM, you wrote: EH>> Hi, EH>> At 11:41 21.05.04 +0200, you wrote: PD> Hello blist, PD> In the OLD days, people were happy with SMTP-Auth. I consider it LESS PD> security as SMTP after POP, because with SMTP-Auth, You sent Your PD> e-mailadress and Your password of Your mailbox over the internet. PD> When a man-in-the-middle catch this e-mail (or worse Your PW), he can PD> use it for spam, or access Your mailbox. EH>> This is only true for SMTP Authentication of type "plain" and "login". EH>> With CRAM-MD5 its quite save. EH>> Read: http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/smtpauth.html#FRAMEWORK PD> Yes, it's 'quite' safe, but You still reveal Your e-mailadress. PD> If there are many hops between Your workstation and the smtpserver, PD> You can get some spam in return. PD> More, Your mail is sent in plaintext. I prefer encrypted streams, PD> so SUPP's patch which encrypts the stream with SSL, and authenticate PD> afterwards (in plaintext) is still the best way to go, it's not a big PD> effort to realize. EH>> Pls. tell us how you intend to communicate to the rest of the world by EH>> means of email with encrypted addresses. EH>> You are joking, troll. EH>> regards. EH>> --eh. EH>> Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de/EH> EH>> Wiener Weg 8, 50858 Cologne | T: +49 221 484 4923 | F: ...24 PD> To be rude and without respect, this was the speciality of Your PD> ancestors when they pretended to be the most bright race on Earth. PD> For Your records annoo 1914-18, 1940-1945. Clearly, some can't deny PD> their roots. PD> Ahhh...yes! A flame war...always nice :) I quote from the one who has bringing 'the gas': EH> You are joking, troll Well, I did't start. This list is to help people. It's not about to be picky or to be arrogant, if someone share another view, he has the right to put his vision forward and to defend his case. You can discuss topics without insulting people and without words like 'troll', maintained in the directory of Dr. Erwin Hoffmann. Maybe I write terrible English, but I am on the internet for a few decades, and some use our programs quite a lot in their BSD stuff. I don't need insults of someone, who thinks to have the right to insult people, because he has a PhD. -- Best regards, DEBO Jurgen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.guide.be * www.gids.be * www.guide.fr * www.shop.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- / \ sarl GUIDE (sdet) --- the GUIDE, de GIDS, TELESHOP, SHOP __ | __ 128, rue du faubourg de Douai | / | \ | FR-59000 Lille, La France / \ | / \ Tél/Fax +32 59 26.91.51 Mobile +32 479 212.841 /|______\|/______|\ Site http://sarl.guide.fr \| /|\ |/ N° TVA FR-55.440.243.988 |\ / | \ /| RC Lille 74075/2001B01478 |__\ | /__| Siret 440 243 988 00027 | Compte BE: KREDBEBB (BIC) BE56.466-5571951-88 (IBAN) --- Compte FR: CMCIFR2A (BIC) FR76.1562-9027-0200-0455-1870-127 (IBAN) \ / Conditions (terms): http://sarl.guide.fr/conditions.php -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.teleshop.fr * www.teleshop.be * www.teleshop.biz * www.teleshop.info * www.teleshop.name --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------