Just an update. We are waiting for the ASF infrastructure group to set up the CMS. The Jira issue I created on 5/7 has not been updated and I don't know of any work that has been done. I sent a message to the infrastructure list today asking about the status.
-Andy On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote: > I created/committed the initial set of CMS files/directories: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/vcl/site > > I found 2 sets of instructions on how to do this, each suggests using > a different set of template files: > http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#svn > > I used the files from the stanbol site as recommended on the CMS FAQ > page since the files seemed to be a bit more configured. The only > change I made was to replace "stanbol" with "vcl" wherever it existed. > > I made a request to infrastructure: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4761 > > -Andy > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote: >> I agree too. I believe we can request a new CMS site without >> affecting the existing website/Confluence. The "getting started" >> instructions are here: >> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCMSFAQ >> >> I have created a new Jira component called "project website (Apache >> CMS)" and an issue to track our own progress and to tag Subversion >> commits: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VCL-583 >> >> I can work on adding the required layout to our Subversion space and >> create the infrastructure Jira request. >> >> Thanks, >> Andy >> >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Miller, Tony <mill...@ecu.edu> wrote: >>> I agree, might as well use what Apache says. Just to provide alternatives, >>> though, the current name for such things is "static site generator". >>> Believe it or not, it's become one of the hot topics on many of the web >>> design podcasts and blogs that I follow (perhaps a reaction to "heavy" >>> solutions like WordPress, perhaps a reaction to the current popularity of >>> Github). Here's a site which lists many such tools: >>> >>> http://iwantmyname.com/blog/2011/02/list-static-website-generators.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tony Miller >>> Technology Consultant, ITCS, East Carolina University >>> mill...@ecu.edu /\ http://blog.ecu.edu/techtips >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Aaron Coburn [mailto:acob...@amherst.edu] >>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM >>> To: <vcl-u...@incubator.apache.org> >>> Cc: <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: Rework the Apache VCL website? >>> >>> >>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Andy Kurth wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Aaron Coburn <acob...@amherst.edu> wrote: >>>>> As for the website, I agree that some design work would be really >>>>> useful. I am assuming that ASF would provide a hosting arrangement, >>>>> i.e. a domain like vcl.apache.org? Would that also include server space >>>>> to run any type of CMS? >>>> >>>> Yes, ASF hosts all project websites and provides server space. >>>> If/when we graduate, the podling website will be moved to >>>> vcl.apache.org. Apache provides a CMS but it is up to the community >>>> whether to use it or something else as long as the content is static. >>>> More info is here: >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html >>>> -and- >>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html >>> >>> Thanks, I read about Apache's CMS, and I don't see any compelling reason >>> not to use that. It supports both HTML and Markdown formats. Updates are >>> managed by subversion, and it seems like it will be easy to use. >>> >>> Aaron Coburn >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Confluence is a nice all-in-one package, though if you are >>>>> considering a complete overhaul of the site, I could also recommend a >>>>> system like Drupal (MySQL + PHP). Drupal has a lot of bells and >>>>> whistles that can make for a very nice, highly interactive site. The >>>>> downside of drupal is that it is not specifically designed to handle >>>>> software documentation. On the other hand, if we only need to serve >>>>> static html pages that focus on documentation, etc, I can also >>>>> recommend Sphinx. The downside of Sphinx is that it is really best >>>>> for Python and C++ projects, and it doesn't support web-based updates >>>>> -- it does create excellent sites, though. >>>> >>>> I also like Drupal but don't think it can be used due to the static >>>> requirement. We actually use this for NCSU's VCL front page. >>>> >>>> I'm not familiar with Sphinx. It looks like at least one other >>>> project is using Sphinx: >>>> http://chemistry.apache.org/python/docs/docs.html >>>> >>>> -Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Aaron Peeler <fapee...@ncsu.edu> wrote: >>>>> Yes, I agree the site needs to be updated. I'm fine to move to ASF >>>>> CMS, especially if this the future direction. >>>>> >>>>> Aaron >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Andy Kurth <andy_ku...@ncsu.edu> wrote: >>>>>> The Apache VCL project website (https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL) could >>>>>> use some improving. It is automatically generated from the >>>>>> Confluence wiki site >>>>>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/Apache+VCL). >>>>>> I'm not sure exactly how this works but some things have never >>>>>> worked quite right... small details such as the left nav bar not showing >>>>>> up. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to start reworking the site and would like ideas/help from >>>>>> anyone interested. The first step would be to decide on an >>>>>> underlying platform/CMS. I have nothing against Confluence but the >>>>>> ASF is moving away from it in favor of the "ASF Content Management >>>>>> System". More information is here: >>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html >>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Tools have been written to assist in migrating from Confluence to >>>>>> the ASF CMS. See the bottom of the wiki page: >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 >>>>>> >>>>>> At first glance this seems like a logical path to pursue. Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Andy >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Aaron Peeler >>>>> Program Manager >>>>> Virtual Computing Lab >>>>> NC State University >>>>> >>>>> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which >>>>> are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public >>>>> Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. >>>
