> The whole problem with all of this is that you are going down the
discussion
> path of inventing a programming language...ie: what JEXL is trying to do
by
> implementing the spec of a programming language.
>
> All of what you want to do can already be done in Java and pushed into the
> context. No need to enable it in Velocity.

It is not always possible to put things into the context.
Like some  code generation tool: metadata -> tool-> Velocity templates ->
generated code.
Templates can be customized, but not a "tool". Some tools have "high level"
API and
 context stuff is private API.
See http://sourceforge.net/projects/strutsgenerator/ or
http://www.gentleware.com/products/index.php3 for realistic examples.

>
> -jon
>
> on 2002/8/31 5:43 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 8/30/02 8:47 PM, "Daniel Rall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Daniel Rall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>> "Juozas Baliuka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> $myMap[ "key" ]
> >>>> $myMap[ $var ]
> >>>
> >>> This array index syntax is not supported, as the $myMap object is not
> >>> an Array object.
> >>
> >> Being very familiar with Perl and Python, I realize that other
> >> languages do support this sort of syntax for hash lookups.  As
> >> Velocity is quite Java-centric and has so far explicitly avoided
> >> anything resembling Perl, I wouldn't really be in favor of adding
> >> anything like that, either.
> >
> > This is supported in Jexl, as I was thinking of proposing it here.  ECMA
> > script seems to require the equivalence of
> >
> >
> >   a.b  and  a[b]
> >
> >
> > which to me is mind-bendingly weird as I see structural semantics behind
"."
> > and "[]"  You can do things like
> >
> >  foo.1
> >
> > Where foo is an array...  I have to have it in Jexl for compliance with
> > JSTL's EL (not that Jexl is 100% compliant yet...)...
> >
> > Anyway, I can make a good argument (to myself anyway) that this fits
with
> > the notion of 'introspective polymorphism', the idea that class doesn't
> > matter when you say
> >
> > $foo.bar
> >
> > to be able to be calling either   getBar()    or   get("bar") and be
able to
> > switch the object in the context freely.
> >
> > This . == [] would take that one step further.
> >
> > However, I keep coming back to wondering if we can avoid adding [] and
still
> > have the functionality (less syntax is more...), but then we get to
things
> > like
> >
> > $foo.$bar
> >
> > (cue Jon : "This isn't Perl") to have the same functionality as
> >
> > $foo[$bar]
> >
> >
> > I actually wouldn't personally mind an array accessor, as the problem of
> > accessing out of bounds, which we already have with array lists :
> >
> >
> > #set($foo = [1,2,3,4])
> >
> >  $foo.get(123)
> >
> >
> > wouldn't be a new thing.
> >
> > Off to coffee..
>
>
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