Hi, (apologies for the resend, but the last message was fairly unreadable)
I wanted to repeat my call to action on Velocity, which was buried in a thread "new development" on the user list. Despite the loud vocalizations of some, I have a feeling that this project is not dead yet There's a good size user base, and a number of talented developers out there who have created patches for their own system. It'd be great if we could get some of these public, maybe create a list. Two reasons people may be resistant: --Some developers (myself included) are concerned that the patches may not be committed. This is clearly has been an issue. The number of active committers are few (1 or 2, depending how you count it). But Geir says he's going to try to get some patches in. I say... give him a chance. --You may feel the patch may not be ready for prime time exposure. I suggest you share it anyway. Maybe someone else can take it, tweak it, enhance it, and share it back. At the very least you can get some comments and thoughts from others. Not sure how to submit a patch? Not sure how to run the test suite? Ask! Everyone's at a different level of experience. Someone posts on velocity-dev with an idea? Respond-- give them feedback, encourage them to participate. By the way, I do believe that new committers will come. How do we get new committers? By selecting from those who contribute good code and ideas. Don't believe me that the current committers will put in the patches? Submit anyway. Others will still be able to make use of the code, and eventually we'll stage a rebellion and take over the CVS access :-) I'm optimistic about the state of Velocity and the Velocity Community. The user base is terrific. My personal feeling is that the V. dev community has been in a bit of a rut this past year, both in terms of committing and in terms of discussion. I suggest we drop the negative discussion for a while and focus on how WE, the Velocity community, can help each other and the project get some new momentum. Thank you very much... I'll relinquish the soapbox now. WILL _______________________________________ Forio Business Simulations Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.forio.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]