On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 12:27 -0700, Will Glass-Husain wrote:
> Thanks for the note.
> 
> I think the current Velocity Anakia xdoc format serves the same purpose as 
> Forrest - does that seem right?

Yes, or you could use Maven to generate your site as it will consume the
xdoc format easily. 

BTW, if you want to see why people use CSS as opposed to tables take a
peek here:

http://www.csszengarden.com/


> Flexible is good, except when it's too much work.  Luckily in this case 
> converting to CSS is a matter of editing one file.
> 
> Let's not even get into XHTML :-)
> 
> WILL
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Koberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Velocity Developers List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: site format
> 
> 
> > Will Glass-Husain wrote:
> >> Appreciate the comments.  I'm going to spend some time on content first, 
> >> then come back to this.
> >>
> >> I'm still not clear on the tables vs. CSS issue.  Yes, presentation vs 
> >> semantics - I grok that.  I've read the articles, am familiar with the 
> >> trend.  But we already do this with xdocs.
> >
> > Are you going to use the Forrest system?
> >
> > http://forrest.apache.org/0.6/index.html
> >
> > I think you get all this for free and some apache projects are already 
> > using it.
> >
> > As to not being clear on the tables v. CSS issue, the main problem is that 
> > you won't be able to display the 100% Buzzword Compliant [TM] gif :)
> >
> > Seriously, using a print.css is very nice. And having the (X)HTML as basic 
> > as possible, generated by XSL/DVSL, and styled by CSS makes for a very 
> > flexible website.
> >
> > best,
> > -Rob
> >
> >>
> >> CSS makes sense to me in some ways.  I use CSS extensively in my websites 
> >> to centralize formatting statements.  The printing argument is 
> >> particularly convincing.  (it'd be nice to eliminate the ant task for 
> >> creating printable documents).  I just don't get why everyone is moving 
> >> from tables to CSS for broad page layout - it seems about the same amount 
> >> of work. (maybe more- CSS can be quirky with cross-browser issues and has 
> >> trouble with footers).
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> WILL
> >>
> >
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Jason van Zyl
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