Hello Nathan

Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 14:28 -0800, Nathan Bubna a écrit :
> Question #1 - Does anyone else want to take point on the future of
> VelocityStruts?  I'm content to help support and maintain
> VelocityStruts 1.2 for a while, but beyond that, i think i need to bow
> out of the game.  if no one steps up, VelocityTools 1.3 won't support
> Struts 1.3 features and may not even turn out to be compatible.  if
> that turns out to be true, then it might be time to drop
> VelocityStruts (or hand it off to the Struts folks) and move on to a
> VelocityTools 2.x without a VelocityStruts component.

I'm not using Struts nor VelocityStruts, so of course I'm in favour of a
VelocityTools 2.x. I never used Struts since it always seemed quite
bloated to me, and that is the exact reason why I like the lightweight
aspects of VelocityTools. So I've always seen VelocityStruts as a very
paradoxal entity...

> Question #2 - What do you think of these ideas?

Idea #1 - commons-logging: I'm quite neutral on this.

Idea #2 - reflection: Great ! And backward compatible, by the way.

Idea #3 - veltag: As long as veltag tools don't pollute too much Generic
and View tools! I'm not using it either.

Idea #4 - standalone toolbox: if it's easier for 2.x, ok, but I thought
there already was a patch for it?!

Idea #5 - syntax simplification: it is always great.

> Question #3 - Does anyone really want any of these in a VelocityTools
> 1.3?  Or should we just move on to work on a VelocityTools 2?

AFAIAC, 2.x is ok.

> Question #4 - Are there any other "big" ideas out there for a VelocityTools 2?

What about tools pooling ?

Also, do you remember my proposal to have regexp scopes for tools? The
idea was that regexp scopes are thinner than the request scope: tools
are instanciated only if the URL matches the regexp. I'm quite sure that
the performance issue is not that great for compiled regexps.

Otherwise - VelocityView is a minimal web framework - as such, it deals
with some problematics that are more linked to standard webapp concerns
than to Velocity itself. So my question: To be able to provide a
ready-to-use webapp, should the view tools adress standard web
problematics like validation, authentication, and the like?

> then my last and lesser question is...
> 
> Question #5 - joda-time (http://joda-time.sourceforge.net/) is great. 
> i want to see support for it in DateTool (or a new tool if need be). 
> i haven't had time to tackle this myself.  has anyone else done this
> yet?  anyone want to?  i'll probably get to it eventually, but as you
> can see from the above, i already have bitten off a lot to chew. :)

Interesting.


Cheers,

  Claude



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