Sunday, October 20, 2002, 7:35:04 AM, bob mcwhirter wrote:

[snip]
> I don't argue.  I give facts when I feel someone isn't aware of them.  Then
> I shut the hell up.  ie. "Well, you know that'd be simple in dom4j using the
> ElementHandler interface...".  Then, nothing more is said.  I assume that
> I've given enough information for a smart and motvated developer to then
> delve deeper and make his own decisions.  Brow-beating and chest-beating
> just don't work.  
[snip]

Probably you had no time to follow this whole stupid debate. Jonathan
did exactly things like "Well, you know that'd be simple in dom4j
using the ElementHandler interface..." (that's a different question
that IMO he overdid it...) The brow-beating was mainly started by
Velocity people... you know, they stared a false-technical discussion
but they just said more and more nonsense things (which is tiresome
for us in itself; sure, some answers of us was cutting because of
this). Then, since it was too obvious that they are just started to
debate to hit-back for some fictitious injury and they have not real
technical points, *they* started the real brow-beating, to discredit
Jonathan (good old well-tried method used in politic) and FM people in
general, stared "bozo" things, etc.


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