Yes, when we speed it up we played with the buffer settings. # of buffers is set at 64, size is 32768. When I started this 6 months ago, they said only professional services could help me. But I will say that the guy that came in did help, because before it was talking 23 hours to backup. With the multiple streaming of the information stores, buffer changes, and installing the STK tape drivers for windows instead of the Veritas ones, we saw improvements. I was talking with the disk fairies and they are going to relay out the disks for the exchange servers. They are saying, from what they are seeing, this will also help with the read performance. I will just have to wait for them and be patience. Kevin
________________________________ From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:32 AM To: Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Information Store Backup Slow Ok fiber is very, very good, because that is what I use (very similar, but all HP branded). spoken to Veritas on what changes they made?? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:19 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Information Store Backup Slow EMC DMX3000 disk..... I would have to ask the disk fairies what type of disk, but I believe it is the high end EMC disk. They have their own Disk SAN setup with 2 fiber connections to ever server. ________________________________ From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:14 AM To: Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Information Store Backup Slow kevin Forgot to ask, what sort of disks are the DB's on? High speed fibre, or SCSI Internal drives or hot swappable? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Whittaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:36 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Information Store Backup Slow 1) I checked and there is no tracker.exe running. 2) There is no AV running on it. Checked event logs and only found entries about backing up specific files under the information store. Network speed?!? They are SAN MEDIA Servers, and backup directly to the SSO drives. Yes the policy is configured to use the storage unit for the media server. Seeing your backup time does not sound positive to me. 75GB in 47 mins, means taking my 805GB divide by 75GB = 10.72 hours! ________________________________ From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:19 AM To: Kevin Whittaker; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Information Store Backup Slow Hi Well my Ex2k3 is a SAN Media - get approx 60 - 80GB+ - I backup the information store policy and it uses one drive. You can use the * at the end to stream the stores (which sounds like the route veritas has made). To give you an idea, checking last nights backup took 47 mins to backup 75GB I use SSO/SAN/Fiber/LTO3 HP ESL Library. Two things to look at: 1) Make sure tracker.exe is not running locally on the Exchange box (Start, Run, type MSCONFIG and goto the STARTUP tab) 2) Turn off any AV for the Windows operating system (do not turn off Exchange AV) Any errors in the event logs? Almost sounds like Network speeds to me. your policy is configured to use the storage unit for the Media Server? Hope this helps (a little!) Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Whittaker Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Exchange 2003 Information Store Backup Slow All, I have 2 Exchange 2003 servers, both running Server 2003 SP2. I will have to admit I don't know much about the 2003 exchange setup, but I was told that they are on the latest patches for Exchange. Both servers are SAN Media servers and backup to a tape drive via SSO. The Silo is a L700E with 9940B tape drives. The Disk space is actually EMC drives via a Disk SAN. The backup is a Full backup every night. Here is the issue... the backup doesn't run very fast at least I don't think so. Six months ago, we had Veritas come in and look at them and help speed them up. We did 2 things; One we set limits on the mailboxes of people so the overall size of the information stores when down from 1.2TB to 705GB. Two, we changed the backups to backup each of the 4 information stores at the same time and multiplex them. 1st Exchange Server: (Total 81.4GB per hour) SG1 Mail 20.3GB per hour SG2 Mail 20.5GB per hour SG3 Mail 20.1GB per hour SG4 Public Folder 20.5GB per hour 2nd Exchange Server: (Total 82.6GB per hour) SG1 Mail 19.5GB per hour SG2 Mail 19.9GB per hour SG3 Mail 19.4GB per hour SG4 Mail 23.8GB per hour Since that translates to about 22.5MB per second on tape drives that should be able to do about 60MB. I have a couple Windows 2003 server backups over the network that are doing 35MB per second! So, does anybody get about the same performance? Better? Any ideas about things to look at? Kevin Whittaker Syniverse Technologies Systems Engineer - UNIX Admin Work: (813) 637-5502 Cell: (813) 810-6456 This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. 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