We have a great relationship with NetBackup support folks and engineers.
Much of this was built on the fact that when we upgraded from 5.1 to
6.0MP3we had a disaster on our hands.  We're currently at
6.0MP5 today and relatively stable.  We have conversations with them
multiple times per week and they've been at our site a few times (their
offices are only a few miles up the road).  We're not a small site although
we're far from their biggest customer and we have enough complexities thrown
in regularly that make the engineers earn their pay.

If I was starting fresh today, I'd go straight to 6.5.1.  In fact, this is
what we're going to on January 1, and we're basing this on our discussions
with Symantec and what they know about our environment and their product
(they obviously know about bugs that we don't since they may never have been
seen by a customer even though they're present in the code base).  This
decision was not taken lightly, and the Symantec folks know they'll be
onsite again if NBU doesn't perform as advertised.

One of your requirements is a large RHEL environment so remember that NBU
6.5 is the *first* release to support ACLs on RHEL and also the *first* to
support FlashBackup on Linux.  The SAN Media Server license doesn't exist
with 6.5 - it's now the Enterprise Client license and includes both the SAN
Media Server and FlashBackup functionality.  Since you're licensing this
piece anyway, you may as well see if FlashBackups will speed up your
backups.

BTW, Aptare reporting would not have been an issue even if you had it
installed - they support 6.5 today (and have for quite a while).

Something to think about...
   .../Ed

On 12/18/07, Jeff Cleverley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm coming into an unique opportunity with regards to NetBackup.  I'm
> going to get to start from scratch.  No upgrades, imports, migrations,
> etc.   This environment is currently running NB5.0 and I also manage a
> 5.1 backing up 70 TB of SAN storage.  We want to stay with NetBackup and
> not switch to another vendor.
>
> The old environment we inherited is old (hardware and software), been
> managed by at least 4 different groups of administrators and
> transitioned between at least 2 companies.  We know the database is not
> clean.  We've decided we are going to set up everything new and when
> everything on the old one expires, we're going to just shut it all off :-)
>
> I've seen a number of threads about which versions to go to (6.0 MP4 vs
> 6.5 seemed the most common).  Almost all of these dealt with upgrades.
> I don't want to start any of the which is better threads but would like
> to see what people would choose if they had the start from scratch
> option.  From what I'm seeing, I'm leaning towards 6.0 MP4.
>
> Below is what we are going to be using and backing up:
>
> Master server - Dell 2950 RHEL4 (final details like release level still
> pending).
> Current SAN media servers - hpux 11.00 (L3000 x 2) and 1 hpux 11.11
> (rp3440), all fibre attached to the tape library.
> Network clients - 1 RH3 client.
> Tape library - Dell MS6000 with 4 fibre Gen 3 Ultrium drives.
> SAN switches - Brocade 4100 x 2 ( We will also run the EMC SAN
> connections through the switches).
>
> The plan is to start replacing the hpux servers with Dell servers.  They
> will also do SAN backups.  Everything else listed above will be new.
> There will be ~ 20 TB of SAN based data on the 4 servers.  Licensing may
> be an issue as it seems to have changed.  We currently have tier 1 hpux
> licenses for the master and SAN media servers, along with some unix
> network client licenses.  We're trying to figure out the tier changes
> but I can't get my hands on a licensing guide.  We have enough drive and
> SSO licenses for the new library.
>
> We don't do any database backups like Oracle, no Windows at all, no
> vaulting or remote replication, and don't currently have any reporting
> software like Aptare to deal with the latest revisions.  It sounds so
> easy and simple it scares me :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> --
>
> Jeff Cleverley
> Unix Systems Administrator
> 4380 Ziegler Road
> Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
> 970-288-4611
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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