Is anyone using ZFS for this ?

/Steve
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Jeff Lightner wrote:

> I second Ed's recommendation of Veritas Volume Manager (VxVM).   Not
> just for NetBackup but for most filesystems (including those for
>> terabyte databases).   The options one has for controlling things such
> as buffering, block sizes etc... are important for databases.  Moreover
> since it allows you to grow/shrink filesystems on the fly it is a great
> tool for Production environments where downtime Is hard to get.
> Finally since it allows one to do software RAID in environments where
> hardware RAID isn't available it has that added benefit.
>
>
>
> Most Sun Solaris shops of any size use VxVM.   Many HP HP-UX shops use
> VxVM even though HP has its own Logical Volume Manager (LVM) but many
> still use LVM.  On Linux most Enterprise folks use LVM which is very
> much like the one on HP-UX.  AIX has one called LVM that I haven't used.
>
>
>
> Using Windows for very large enterprise class environments simply isn't
> an option for most folks due to scalability issues.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
> Simon (external)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:35 AM
> To: Ed Wilts
> Cc: [email protected]; Paul Keating
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
>
>
>
> Ed
>
> I use Robocopy alot, but I feel that the product may have been
> ill-advised by someone who thought we needed the product, when clearly
> we have proven this is not the case.
>
>
>
> Robocopy and Diskpart :-) works like a charm!
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: WEAVER, Simon (external)
> Cc: Paul Keating; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:27 AM, WEAVER, Simon (external)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>       Personally, I am not a fan of Veritas Volume Manager, and I
> certainly cannot recommend it.
>
>
> That's because you're a Windows guy and the product certainly doesn't
> function on Windows like it does on Unix.  If you're a Unix guy, you'll
> see the limitations of Windows and its lack of a volume manager very
> quickly.
>
> My catalog is in a volume manager and yes, we've grown it.   We've
> bounced a lot of our storage around between SAN frames as well as
> expanded volumes.  On the other hand, my Windows admins do nothing but
> bitch and moan when they have to do the same thing.  Linux, HP-UX,
> Solaris, VMS - all move data nicely around.  Windows, well, just say no.
>
> Robocopy is not an alternative to a volume manager :-)
>
>   .../Ed
>
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
> Keating
>       Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:19 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
>       Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
>
>       Build your catalog filesytem using a Logical Volume Manager,
> such as Veritas Volume Manager (Storage Foundations) on a SAN attached
> LUN. As your catalog grows you can grow both the LUN and the filesystem
> hot, without an outage.
>
>       Or, if you have availability of a recent Enterprise class array
> such as the HDS USP-V, you can build it on a DP (Dynamic provisioned)
> LUN (aka thin provisioning)
>
>       The array presents your server with a large fixed size LUN, even
> several terabytes, but only occupies as much disk space as needed,
> initially, then auto allocates disk as needed.
>
>       Personally, I'd just go the volume manager route.
>
>       Paul
>
>
>
> -- 
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