I definitely think your sales team should be giving you some sort of
response to this.  But its not like Symantec isn't listening.  We know
from posts here (and I actually got a phone call once) that they are
making changes where they can to accommodate us.  However, this public
FTP thing has got to die.  I support a number of software titles and no
one in the industry posts public FTP or HTTP copies of their softwares
unless its a DEMO.  Its just too easy now days to download a key from
some crack website and plug that into the software you FTPd.  To be
honest, I'm not surprised Symantec didn't do this earlier.  They need to
protect their intellectual property from piracy.  End of story.
 
But to your points, their website is a pain in the butt compared to FTP
and someone here even said the website didn't work for large downloads
(that sucks.)  There are obvious middle points here and we need to
suggest those.
 
1) Login Accounts using our Symantec.com credentials for FTP
2) A non-webscripted way to get to FTP and HTTP URLs of downloads we
want (protected, of course)
3) Only post patches to the FTP public site (what use is stealing a
patch?)
 
Its not like Symantec killed public FTP just to piss everyone off.  And
I don't know that they are going to reverse course.  So perhaps we can
find some middle ground that meets both their needs and ours?
 
-Jonathan

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Dennis - dpeaco
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Unfortunately, Symantec isn't listening to anyone any more. We own and
purchase a LOT of Netbackup, Legato, and Backup Express and we pushed
all the way through our Netbackup Sales Rep and support rep about the
lack of tech support response as well as how poor their website is to
navigate to find ANYTHING worth while to include the awful way of
"hunting" for a flippin patch for Netbackup. Needless to say...there's
been zero response from them in about a year now.

 

Thank You,

Dennis Peacock

EBCA

Acxiom Corporation

501-342-6232 (office)

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:32 PM
To: Michael Graff Andersen
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] FYI - Symantec made a change to their FTP (no
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This is terrible, I have always used the FTP to get MPs, etc because I
need them for multiple platforms and it is much easier to queue
everything up in <insert your ftp client here> than using the website
and getting each one individually. 

ALSO, I find the Symantec site EXTREMELY painful to use, the search
function is almost unusable, nothing seems organized; this is terrible
news. :'-( 

I have been using Google to find technotes for netbackup using the
following url: (searches seer.entsupport.symantec.com for "netbackup"
and anything within the past month) 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aseer.entsupport.symantec.com
+netbackup&as_qdr=m 





Jared M. Seaton
Recovery Administrator
Mylan Inc.
304-554-5926
304-685-1389 (Cell) 



"Michael Graff Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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05/28/2008 04:36 PM 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] FYI - Symantec made a change to their FTP (no
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Think we all should complain, especially as the java download dosn't
really work for the big files.

And they are refering to the ftp site in numerous technotes, makes
absolutely no sense to have a pub(lic) area that can't be browsed.

my 10 cent

Michael

2008/5/28, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Wed, 28 May 2008, Curtis Preston wrote:
>
> > Now THAT'S just ridiculous
> >
> >
> > Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection
> > GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
> >
>
> Agree and I asked if this change would be reversed-- it will not be,
one
> must use the website for everything now FYI.
>
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