Actually the new DD OS upgrade alone is supposed to provide better performance. 
  We just did the upgrade and are looking at some other fun facts with HP-UX' 
NFS implementation.

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From: Mark Glazerman [mailto:mark.glazer...@spartech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:12 AM
To: Jeff Lightner; Hickman, Tony; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backupsfromdatadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

That is indeed correct... in the summer of 2008 we were quoted $12,500 per year 
for an OST license on a DD560 plus an extra $2800 for 1 year of platinum 
support.  You need a license per restorer so we would have needed 2.

At the time I understood that it was of more use for folks still vaulting data 
to tape from the DD's.  I understand that when combined with the new DDOS 
release, OST now provides considerable performance improvements with regard to 
throughput.

We may revisit the idea if the prices have changed.

Mark Glazerman
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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:33 AM
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OST apparently costs $$$

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Hickman,
Tony
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There has been a great deal of what looks to be valuable information
tossed about on here.  I am very glad I posted my original concerns to
this mail list.  I was out of the office yesterday so I will most likely
dedicate my day to decifering some of this information and following up
on my problem.  Whenever I do get this resolved I will gladly let the
list know what steps I have used.  Thank you all for your time and
responses.

B/R,
Tony H.

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datadomaintotapew/netbackup6.5

>From what I know, quantum DXi7500 has an option "path to tape" and 
>sends the
data to the tapes from fiber channel. I will implement it to a customer
within the next month.

Also with the latest firmware, DXi7500 use OST to replicate to another
DXi7500 and netbackup is aware of the replication. I don't know if this
is over fiber of ip, but the direct duplication to tapes is over fiber

stefanos

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of cpreston
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:41 AM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] how to copy backups from data
domaintotapew/netbackup6.5



Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
> 
> What is an "OST interface" ?
> 


The OpenSTorage interface, a new way to use your Data Domain boxes (and
other boxes that support it) with NetBackup.  It's not NFS or CIFS, it
is its own transport.  It is also not VTL.  Think of it as a more
intelligent DSU. 

In the case of DD & Quantum, the data is sent over IP.  With Falconstor,
the data is sent over Fibre Channel.

With DD boxes (which is what started this conversation), the first
improvement you'll get simply by switching from NFS/CIFS to OST is a
significant increase in performance.   With all systems that support
OST,
you also get what NBU calls "optimized deduplication," where NBU tells
one OST device to copy a given backup to another OST device.  The OST
device (in this case, the DD box) will use dedupe and replication to get
the data there.  Once there, it informs NBU.  Now NBU knows about both
copies, just as if it had duplicated it via bpduplicate.  Nice, huh?

The nice thing that OST is supposed to support is tape-out
functionality, where an OST device can copy it's backup to tapes and
tell NBU which tapes got which backups.  Again, just as if it NBU did
the copy.

Here's my blog post about OST:
http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/198/47/

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