That sounds good except the pricing part.

Monte, I don't know enough about it yet to have specific questions

Michael

2009/4/24 Tristan Ball <tristan.b...@leica-microsystems.com>

>  I’d second both of these points, but especially the pricing one. When we
> looked at it, pricing was based on the volume of data pre-deduplication, and
> bought in blocks of n Gigabytes or Terabytes.
>
>
>
> I had two big issues with that
>
>
>
> 1)       From a business point of view the one of the big value point of
> dedupe is to reduce the storage/transfer costs of backup. But their pricing
> model means that rather than spending that money on infrastructure (local
> tape, faster links, whatever), we pay that money to veritas/symantec. OK,
> fine, it’s probably less money over all, but even so to me it means that
> Symantec is getting the lions share of that value from the software, not me.
> I actually think this will change somewhat as dedupe becomes commodity.
>
> 2)       Volume based pricing often stings you 2 or 3 years in. Sure,
> right now paying $n to backup x TB might seem cost reasonable, but the
> midrange/highend vendors never seem to drop their $n per x ratio at the same
> rate as the rest of the industry – so in two years time, you may find
> yourself justifying quite high cost per gig upgrade, just because you added
> 3 remote sites, and suddenly have to buy another data block. And you no
> longer have the bargaining position of being a new customer. Which leads me
> back to my first point – why am I buying another data block when 50-80% of
> that data is going to be de-dupped from other sites anyway?
>
>
>
>
>
> Had their pricing been the same per tb, but based on the de-duped data
> size, not the pre-de-duple, we probably would have signed up.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>             T.
>
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> *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:
> veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Ed Wilts
> *Sent:* Friday, 24 April 2009 2:26 AM
> *To:* Michael Graff Andersen
> *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] Puredisk experiences ?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Michael Graff Andersen <mia...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> We are considering Puredisk for our remote offices and would like to hear
> other users experiences with it
>
>
> PureDisk is great for backups but you have to have a serious look at your
> restore requirements.  For example, if you have a double-disk failure in a
> RAID5 set at a local office and lose a large raidset, you could be restoring
> by shipping disk drives rather than a network-based restore.
>
> For a restore of a word processing document or spreadsheet, PureDisk is
> fantastic.  If you anticipate restores of a user's 10GB PST file, this could
> become painful.
>
>
> That said, we really like PureDisk technically.  We still don't like the
> price...
>
>     .../Ed
>
> Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE
> ewi...@ewilts.org
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