yes, Rusty. I am happy with Aptare, but my management doesn't want to spend
a dime on the Aptare renewal anymore, why pay for something that you can get
free, and you can argue and show all the value, it is all about to save
money for the company.

I want to see if we can try other Aptare products, like Capacity manager and
another VM Manager.

Boris

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:00 PM, <rusty.ma...@sungard.com> wrote:

>
> Boris,
>
> VBR will not be included in 7.0. There will be some reporting included in
> Ops Center which may be new reports to the base NetBackup product, but there
> will also be another option for additional, advanced, reporting - this is
> probably the stuff most of us would want.
>
> My XSP licensing also includes VBR, but we still decided on Aptare anyway
> as it had already paid for itself.
>
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> 11/19/2009 11:08 AM
>   To
> rusty.ma...@sungard.com
> cc
> Jonathan Dyck <jd...@bank-banque-canada.ca>,
> VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu,
> veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject
> Re: [Veritas-bu] VBR Setup Q's
>
>
>
>
> Unfortunately I am in the same situation. I have Aptare and I am happy with
> it, but now we have VBR for free, and it will be included in NBU 7.0. My
> management doesn't want to pay for the renewal for Aptare :(
> It looks like Symantec is going to force a lot of customers to use their
> reporting tool rather then anything else. I was hoping to use Aptare for the
> storage and VM environment as well. Symantec priced us too high for the
> storage side thought.
>
> Boris
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, 
> <*rusty.ma...@sungard.com*<rusty.ma...@sungard.com>>
> wrote:
>
> That's crazy. It sounds like they are digging for more info or trying to
> get you to convert to VBR.
> We are on this licensing model and the data we send them is via Aptare. I
> don't understand why they are making you do that.
>
> Sorry, that was of no help to you. We installed an older version of VBR to
> test against Aptare and it wasn't anywhere near as complicated as you are
> describing.
>
> I might suggesting making sure that there isn't a specific port/ports that
> need to be open? Does VBR have the equivalent of checkinstall?
> *
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> 11/18/2009 07:53 AM
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>   To
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>   Subject
> [Veritas-bu] VBR Setup Q's
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello all,
> (Hopefully there's a user or two out there who's using VBR instead of
> Aptare ;-)
>
> Long story short,  Symantec is trying to convince me to change my licensing
> scheme to a completely usage-based licensing model (some of you probably are
> doing this) instead of the current individual license purchase/support I
> have currently.  Doesn't cost me anything to check it out, with the caveat
> they're forcing me to install and configure VBR, even though I have a fully
> functional Aptare server that could give them (likely) the exact data they
> need.
>
> Anyways,  VBR 6.6 looks like a beast,  this user's guide is 617 pages long
> and honestly, for the once per year I'm going to run a report (if I go
> through with this), it ain't worth fully learning.  Looking for some quick
> hits on how to set it up. I've got the VBR install done, and I've set it up
> pretty much as far as I can go without help.  Here's what I've done:
>
> 1) Install VBR Server onto a Windows server.
> 2) Install VBR Agent onto the same Windows server.
> 3) Install RAC (Netbackup Remote Administration Console 6.5GA) onto the
> same Windows server.
> 4) Added the name of the VBR Server to the bp.conf on my master server
> (RedHat, 6.5.3.1) , confirmed the VBR server can run a "bpdbjobs -S
> <master_server>" successfully.
> 5) Added a data collector instance within the VBR Agent configuration.
>
> I left the polling intervals at their defaults, and backups ran normally
> last night but no data was collected.   Did I miss out on any key setup
> steps?
>
>  Cheers,
> Jon
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