You'll likely receive many responses to your inquire so I add mine as well. In 
my research with DD and Quantum is that they were all compatible pieces to 
create the solution your seeking, however, there are many moving parts in 
getting them to work and some features are missing (as mentioned, ie. OST) 
compared to the Symantec Appliances.  The Symantec Appliances have many of the 
best of bread software products built in i.e. Storage Foundation/High 
Availability etc.
 
Your environment sounds like an exact copy of ours. I currently have three 
5230's deployed globally for the primary purpose of A.I.R., but also have one 
of them at our primary Data Center location whose additional function was to 
reduce backup windows and deduplicate data - all is working as promoted and 
designed.  I've about a 72% deduplication rate with structured and unstructured 
data.  Accelerator based backups are crazy fast after the first initial Full 
backup - two examples:
 
1. A 21 hour Full back up to LTO IV tape (dedicated backup network 
infrastructure) now takes only 50 minutes to the 5230 deduplication pool.
2. At an East Coast office a local backup of a 375 Gb Windows server with 1.8 
million files would take around 9 to 10 hours. Again, with Accelerator enabled 
and the backup occurring over the WAN to our 5230 Appliance deduplication pool 
2000 miles away, the backup only takes 1 hour 10 minutes. The rate from the NBU 
Console reports 89121 KB Per Second. (this may sound misleading, but you have 
to get your head around what the Accelerate and its Track Journal is doing 
which is comparing (no tree walk) de-duped block changes and sending only new 
blocks that don't reside on the target Appliance)
 
Symantec just announced the 5330 which is of course faster than the 5230 and it 
can scale to 229 Tb so this maybe something you might want to look into. Note 
also that a 5230 can be either a Master or Media server (all of mine are Media 
Servers) and the 5330 can only be a Media server which is not a limiting factor 
in my opinion.
 
I won't get into the discussion of whose better, NetBackup, EMC or Commvault 
because we are a Symantec NetBackup shop. I'll leave that response alone and to 
those who wish to share their experiences.
Scott

>>> Mikhail Nikitin <[email protected]> 11/15/2014 3:16 PM >>>

Couple of things to consider.
NBU Appliance is a media server plus a dedupe pool so it can do offhost VMware 
backups over SAN whereas OST Appliances need a media server. Some additional 
features like VMware instant recovery are not yet available for OST partners.
You can attach Data Domain to the back of NBU Appliances, it is supported. So 
you can have both and avoid having extra media servers for Data Domains.
I would get both and maintain some balance. This should give you maximum 
discount from both Symantec and EMC.
Best regards, MikhailOn 15/11/2014 3:46 am, "saiyed123" 
<[email protected]> wrote:


Our company is considering NBU for backup solution using backup appliance, our 
environment is mainly VMWARE ( 800+ guest) 30 + ESX and 30+Solaris boxes.
We also need Exchange backups to improve and keep the backup over the san when 
possible.
We will need data replicated offsite also.
Current proposal is Netbackup with 3 5230 appliances
I like the integration of Netbackup with Appliance but need to know those who 
are currently using it thier experience with it.
Upgrades/Vmware backup & Exchange/share point/sql etc, netbackup Air and 
accilirator products.
Why do you think Netbackup is better vs EMC or Commvault.
I understand there are some limitation with the Appliance in their size and 
capabilities as compared to DD, i.e NFS/VTL
Would it be better to go with two netbackup appliance and one data domain 
appliance so we can leverage all capabilities, Symantec is saying NFS 
capabilities are coming next year and suggest we backup external NFS mount ( 
waists of space and time).
So i need some opinion in this regard.
We are medium size company.

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