Yes, the jeopardy detection etc has not changed.
 
We've just added support for this new type of topology in which the
various LLT links are interconnected (crosslinks).

        -----Original Message-----
        From: John Cronin [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 6:58 AM
        To: Sandeep Agarwal (MTV)
        Cc: Jim Senicka; Imri Zvik; [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [Veritas-ha] LLT heartbeat redundancy
        
        
        This was certainly news to me.
        
        In this full-mesh heartbeat network, do we still go into
jeopardy if the network links are lost relatively slowly (e.g. if one
link on a node is down for more than 16 seconds by default)?
        
        
        On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Sandeep Agarwal (MTV)
<[email protected]> wrote:
        

                From 5.0MP3 onwards we do support cross-links. In your
example if you
                had a cable connecting sw1 and sw2 then the failure that
you described
                would be handled and LLT would still have 1 valid link
between node 1
                and node 4.
                

                -----Original Message-----
                From: [email protected]
                
                [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jim
                Senicka
                Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 9:23 AM
                To: Imri Zvik
                Cc: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [Veritas-ha] LLT heartbeat redundancy
                
                LLT is designed to use "jeopardy" to detect the
difference between
                single link fail and dual link fail in most situations.
Having a single
                mesh may remove this capability.
                
                Let me check on this with engineering and see if we have
any more up to
                date recommendations
                
                
                -----Original Message-----
                From: [email protected]
                [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Imri
                Zvik
                Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:18 PM
                To: Jim Senicka
                Cc: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [Veritas-ha] LLT heartbeat redundancy
                
                On Sunday 03 May 2009 19:03:16 Jim Senicka wrote:
                > This is not a limitation, as you had two independent
failures. Bonding
                
                > would remove the ability to discriminate between a
link and a node
                > failure.
                
                I didn't understand this one - With bonding I can
maintain full mesh
                topology - No matter which one of the links fails, if a
node still has
                at least one active link, LLT will still be able to see
all the other
                nodes.
                This achieves greater HA than without the bonding.
                
                
                > My feeling is in the scenario you describe, VCS is
operating properly,
                
                > and it is not a limitation.
                
                Of course it is operating properly - that's how it was
designed to work
                :)
                I'm just saying that the cluster could be more redundant
if it wasn't
                designed that way :)
                
                > If you have issues with port or cable failures, add a
low pri
                connection
                > on a third network.
                
                
                
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