As others have stated, it is indeed possible to forcibly import a disk group
on more than one server simultaneously.

One other point - I/O fencing should protect you even in situations where
outside servers are not using VCS or Volume Manager.

Example: A server is being decommissioned and the disks are being wiped
using a destructive analyze program.  Unknown to anybody, one of the disks
was also zoned to an active VCS server, which was using it (obviously a
mistake, perhaps made many years before).  An application on the VCS server
goes down and has to be restored from backup, because the data was
corrupted; the resulting outage lasted several hours, and some data was lost
and not recoverable.

If the VCS server had been using I/O fencing, the SCSI-3 reservation should
have prevented the other server from accessing the disk.

This is based on a situation I was directly involved in (and asked to find
the root cause for).

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Everett Henson <ehen...@nyx.com> wrote:

> Meant for this to go to the group...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Everett Henson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:29 PM
> To: 'A Darren Dunham'
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-ha] I/O Fencing non-CFS
>
> Hmm. The consensus seems to be for Fencing in all cases where possible. I
> got my first taste of VCS on version 3.5 before Fencing was an option and
> I've never had to deal with it until a few months ago.
>
> My thanks to everyone for your replies.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-ha-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:
> veritas-ha-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of A Darren Dunham
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-ha] I/O Fencing non-CFS
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39:30AM -0400, Everett Henson wrote:
>
> > Thanks Gene. I understand it's possible to import the group manually,
> > but the discussion here was around how VCS would behave normally,
> > without manual intervention.
>
> You're talking about a system designed to prevent problems in failure
> situations.  If everything is happy and healthy, it wouldn't be needed.
> Older versions of VCS didn't have fencing and things worked okay most
> of the time.
>
> > Wouldn't a vxdg -C to clear the private region give the server
> > with the group already imported heartburn? Would it allow both
> > servers simultaneous access to the storage?
>
> Both servers will assume they have exclusive control over the data and
> will begin writing information.  Yes, eventually the first server will
> run into problems, but possibly not before corrupting the filesystem
> and/or the disk group.  I did some tests like this (*years* ago) and
> managed to end up with a disk group that I couldn't import.
>
> > BTW, We are using two private interconnects as well as a link-lowpri
> already.
>
> As long as the cluster is healthy and you don't have split-brain, then
> it won't try to import on two.  The fencing is more robust in those
> situations where things are unhealthy.
>
> --
> Darren
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