Thanks for the reply Dirk.

On Mar 7, 4:08 pm, Dirk Stoop <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thought I'd chime in to shed a little light on why we dropped PPC
> support.
>
> First of all, to kiddailey and anyone else still using Versions on a
> PPC machine, I'm sorry that this affects you. Seeing support for your
> machine dropped in a minor update of an app is also unusual, which
> makes this an even more unpleasant surprise.
>
> Below is some background on our decision.
>
> Leading up to Versions 1.1, we had to make quite a few decisions on
> how to move the app forward. One of the biggest decisions we made was
> to drop Mac OS X 10.4 support. As anyone who's coded for both 10.4 and
> 10.5 knows, dropping 10.4 really makes quite a difference in
> development productivity. We were comfortable making this change for
> Versions 1.1 because only 1 to 1.5% of all active Versions users were
> still using Mac OS X 10.4.
>
> Additionally, less than 1% of Versions' active users were still on PPC
> Macs. The final nail in the coffin (data-wise) for PPC support was
> that about half of the remaining PPC users were also on 10.4. So
> beyond dropping 10.4, also dropping PPC would affect less than 0.5% of
> all Versions users.
>
> The below graphs visualize the data that informed our decision:
>
> Mac OS X releases:http://yfrog.com/h6svvcp
> Architectures:http://yfrog.com/gz41tkp
>
> (both graphs display a 7-day moving average to eliminate some noise —
> for those interested, both Intel and more modern OS versions are
> slightly, just a tiny bit, more popular in the weekends. This final
> graph shows Intel/PPC day by day without any 
> averaging:http://yfrog.com/h67oo4p)
>
> To be fair, supporting PPC takes way less effort than supporting Mac
> OS X 10.4 does, but it still takes effort. Most importantly, we need
> to test on every architecture and OS combination that we support for
> every release. With an app as big as Versions, you'd be surprised how
> often you still run into PPC-only issues during pre-release testing.
> Keeping a functional PPC machine around (and replacing it when it
> stops being functional) is also getting harder and harder. If it took
> zero effort to keep supporting PPC, we would keep supporting it.
>
> But given our experience, we think we can deliver more positive value
> to more people by dropping PPC support. It sucks that this means a
> handful of Versions users will get no more functionality updates, but
> to make an omelette you've got to break some eggs.
>
> I understand that none of this makes dropping PPC any more popular
> with people with PPC Macs, but I hope this at least shows we didn't
> make a rash or random decision.
>
> Cheers,
> - Dirk
>
> the Versions team
>
> PS: @kiddailey: Thanks for the nice words about Versions, that means a
> lot. :)
>
> On Feb 28, 7:46 am, kiddailey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well said, TheDo.  And you're right, I could work around this using
> > the Terminal, but I've come to love the GUI (and having grown up on
> > DOS and swearing as a kid that I'd *never* use a GUI, that says a
> > lot :) and Versions specifically.
>
> > For what it's worth, the other well-made OS X SVN client that I was
> > evaluating Versions against still supports PPC (though 10.5 is
> > required).  Depending on Sofa's response, I guess that's my
> > alternative -- at least, until they drop PPC support too :/
>
> > On Feb 28, 1:23 am, TheDO Webmaster <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I agree with you. Subversion works equally well on all of these machines,
> > > why can't Versions? I think that's where the distinction needs to be made.
> > > Versions is not Subversion. It's a pretty wrapper around it. To continue
> > > using older machines, I think we need to accept this and learn the use the
> > > tools of our trade without the fancy interfaces sometimes. A little 
> > > Terminal
> > > knowledge can let you continue to use these machines with equal power.
>
> > > /TheDO/
>
> > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:17 PM, kiddailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I have the hardware.  Eight machines to be exact.  Three of which are
> > > > a variety of Intel Macs and two of which are PPC Macs.  They are all
> > > > running a variation of OS X versions.  The other three others are
> > > > Windows XP, Vista and 7.  I test on all of them and use SVN as my
> > > > bridge for getting updates of the various branches of the software to
> > > > each.
>
> > > > The issue is not in not having the hardware.
>
> > > > On Feb 28, 12:54 am, Alex Zavatone <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > But really, I had a quad processor G5 that was last made in 2006.  
> > > > > That's
> > > > 5 years ago.  Apple doesn't even support the G5 anymore with the new OS 
> > > > or
> > > > the current one.
>
> > > > > They might be fine machines (we even used a G4 for a server for a long
> > > > time and I still have my TI) but they aren't being made anymore and the
> > > > market sure isn't growing.
>
> > > > > On another note, I purchased a Quad processor Intel iMac last year 
> > > > > (1067
> > > > MHz speed RAM) refurbed from Apple for 1400 bucks.   It's just so nice 
> > > > and
> > > > the current ones with RAM at 1333MHz are simply nutty fast.
>
> > > > > Sniff around here, I'm sure you'll see something you like that's
> > > > affordable.
> > > >http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=MTM3NTA4MTI
>
> > > > > As a guy who had a Quad G5, a Quad Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 iMacs from the
> > > > past 2 years, the 12 core Intel Mac with an internal SSD, if you can 
> > > > afford
> > > > it, get a new Intel Mac.  Even a Mini is loads faster than the G5.  The 
> > > > RAM
> > > > speed alone is 3x faster than that in your G5.
>
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