I was thinking of using the traveling base because it's smaller & lighter.
I'll spend some time on it this weekend, maybe it's not as feasible as I
thought.

J 

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J

I agree with Nick.  I have a Norvice and I can't see how this works on it by
spinning the base.  Mine is attached to a piece of Corian.  It is great for
weight and working but I can't see turning it.  I must be missing something.

Mike

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Niclas Runarsson
<niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure we're talking about the same weave here anymore. I 
> thought 'Aaaah... with a Norvise maybe' (which offers more space under 
> the hook than a bobbin cradle does).
>
> So I tried "simulating" a Norvise setup using two vises... the second 
> one closer to me, just holding the thread. But it still doesn't work. 
> You get to Step 4 (on my SBS)... but when you then, on Step 5, are to 
> lay back the right hand strand over the hook, you have to go with your 
> right hand between your left and the hook. You can't go with your 
> right hand over the hook and under your left here, because there you 
> will have the thread closing the door. On the Step 5 picture, it would 
> be like closing the way between the hook eye and the bottom of the 
> picture... which needs to be open for your right hand to get that strand
over the hook, but under the left hand strand.
>
> I just can't see a way to get around this without letting go of the
strands.
>
> This is just like wrapping a material having a waiting thread in front 
> of it... with the bobbin hanging under the hook. It can be done 
> because you still can get your hand between the bobbin and the table. 
> But when hanging it up (on Norvise rod or regular bobbin cradle), the "one
hand wrapping"
> doesn't work anymore, since the hook eye technically has been 
> connected to the back of the hook (through thread, rod, bench, vise).
> Using this weave with a bobbin hanging under the hook is very 
> uncomfortable, but still possible. But when the door between the hook 
> eye and the hook bend is closed, then it's impossible without having 
> to let go of materials during the weaving process.
>
> At least this is what I have come up with after experimenting now...
>
> /Nick
>
>
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> J Balmer
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> Ämne: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?
>
> The Nor Vise has a vertical rod opposite the vise jaws w/ a button on 
> the side. When you hang the bobbin over the button, the thread is 
> straight out from the hook, leaving both hands free to manipulate 
> material. Also makes dubbing easy, because you spin the vise head. For 
> your weaving process, all I have to do is turn the pedestal that the vise
is on sideways.
>
> J
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> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson
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> Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?
>
> If you mean hanging it up using the bobbin cradle, then the cradle's 
> horizontal part under the jaws, will block the way completely and you 
> won't be able to get any material under the hook.
>
> /Nick
>
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> J Balmer
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> Ämne: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?
>
> Don't have the bobbin hanging directly below the hook, have the thread 
> straight out from the hook similar to the way the Nor vise is setup, 
> w/ the bobbin closer to your chest instead of off to the right. It 
> might be a little more awkward, but it would make finishing the weave 
> easier. Think of it as though the hook shank extended out beyond the 
> eye; you're crossing under the thread the same way you're already crossing
under the hook.
>
> J
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> Behalf Of Niclas (Gmail)
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:30 AM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments?
>
> Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread 
> tied in during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand 
> will be moving back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be
hanging in the way.
> Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when 
> securing it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I 
> mean... once the thread has been tied in again.
>
> /Nick
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer <jbal...@a5.com> wrote:
>>
>> I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the 
>> end of weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end 
>> ahead of time, hold both strands of woven material in one hand & wrap
thread w/ the other.
>> As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, 
>> but I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save
some time.
>>
>> J
>> ________________________________
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:23 AM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments?
>>
>> I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing.
>> It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I 
>> thought I would "fish" some on the list first (and with 'fish', I 
>> don't mean just from you, Allan).
>>
>> Anyone having any comments on them?
>>
>> http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm
>> http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm
>>
>> /Nick
>
> >
>




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