what proportions of each?
Jimi
USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...
RWVA IIT, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to be a
true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton
"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson
"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
right of self-defense...." Alexander Hamilton
George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
he shot them!
Live free or die fighting!!
We are Many, They are Few.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Ordes" <f...@tribcsp.com>
To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Transparent nymphs-more
Mix of Toluene, MEK, and Acetone. Responsible for the voices...
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Bliss
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Transparent nymphs-more
Don,
What do you use to thin Vinyl Cement?
Mike
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
About 20 years ago me and a fellow tier/photographer up in Montana-
Jerry Smalley- had a long conversation about nymphs. He was an avid
underwater photographer, and one thing he noticed was that many natural
underwater insects are transparent when they are alive, and then turn opaque
only when they die. We had long discussions about that, and also white
nymphs.
Since then, many opportunities have come in the way of new materials
that allow me to experiment with transparency. As far as fishing
freshwater, the jury is still out with deliberations on the river.
Saltwater...these clear flies are killer.
Jimi, it can be bought in Hobby and craft stores, and from fly shops.
Below is a photo of a small sampling of clear and rope-dubbed nymphs and
scuds.
I have two boxes full out in my vest in the truck, to try next week on
the upper Green.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Neville Gosling
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Transparent nymph- fly of the week
DonO
That is a weird looking fly. I was not familiar with jelly rope
(thought that it was a candy for kids) and I had to ggole it. Turns out it
is a Candy for DonO!
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Don Ordes
Sent: June 27, 2010 10:26 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Transparent nymph- fly of the week
I haven't given these any names yet- I just describe them as
'transparent nymphs or flies'.
I have done nymphs, scuds, shrimp, crazy charlies, stones and
emerger dries with this technique and I really like it. They really catch
the light without being flashy, and really look great under-water. I
haven't been fishing too much lately because of the TN, zombie-medications,
and recent surgery. But with my recovery and upcoming travel I hope to give
them a real workout.
It's soft and squishy-feeling like a real bug because I used clear
jelly-rope (JR) and vinyl cement (VC). The VC stays flexible and makes
everything go clear, exposing what's under the JR. The fly turns out much
softer and lighter than head cements, epoxy, or UV body cover.
After the eyes are tied down, the hook is wrapped with pearl flash
tinsel, then a short piece of JR is tied to the bottom (abdomen only). Then
make an ultra-fine rope of ice-dub, 2 colors, gap-wrapped, & finished off at
a thicker thorax in front of the short belly JR.
Then tie a long piece of JR to the top( head-2-tail). I use mono
thread so the thread is no longer a factor in color- it goes clear with the
VC and JR. Keep the wraps in the same location to pull down the segments in
the JR.
Once everything is tied, pick out the front legs (just a few) and
then soak the fly in thinned VC to get full penetration to the hook. This
will make the fly go clear and hi-lite the underwraps of ice-dub thoughout
the clear areas. It also makes the fly sink fast and is very durable.
The dry/emerger version is similar, but tied longer on an emerger
hook and sporting a parachute wing (wingers) and hackle. The body is
suspended below the surface so the clear aspect of the abdomen is effective.
The thorax is not tied transparent, but fuzzy ice-dub.
I met 2 guides in Green River on the trip last week, and I gave them
about two dozen roped flies of all sorts, and extended body worms and
transparent flies. They liked them all and were excited about fishing them-
especially the clear flies. They loved the rope-dub segments and
share-bought a DVD. They'll be testing the flies on the Green below Dutch
John very soon.
DonO
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB
Mail" group.
To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail"
group.
To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail"
group.
To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
--
Mike Bliss
Aloha from Hawaii
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail"
group.
To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail"
group.
To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group.
To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
