While we are talking about not wasting material I will post this. I use the wire right off the spool not wasting the small lengths of leftovers that are too short to use anywhere else. When wrapping lead wire start with the tag end from the spool on the hook shank. Hold it with your finger and wrap right off the spool. When coming to the end of the wrap, hold the wire on the spool and give it a quick jerk. The wire will break clean leaving a little flat spot on the tag end. This leaves a good start for the next hook wrap. The small tag end that is on the hook shank is used to start the thread over the lead wraps and keeps the lead from rotating on the shank. Again, no waste. I was buying my chenille and yarns in skeins. I would take the skeins and wrap them in a ball like you would do yarn for knitting. Place the ball in a small basket in the floor and use the yarn or chenille right off the ball. No waste. If on a card, let the card hang and use right off the card. Again, no waste. When I was commercial tying, if I lost an inch of material on each fly, that would be a foot of material per dozen. Figure 15 dozen flies and it comes to 15'. I am not cheap, just frugal. Tony
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Joyce M Westphal <joyce...@gmail.com> Subject: [VFB] re: winding bobbins To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 7:32 PM I use the sewing machine to wind my copper wire bobbins. Wind from a big 6 inch commercial electrical spool, held between my forefingers, straight to the sewing machine bobbin winder, not running the wire through all the guides on the sewing machine, but directly to the winder. Be careful to hold the biggest spool even and steady, and you can wind a sewing machine bobbin of wire in a few minutes. The bobbin works great in standard spool holders. I also do the Woolly nylon from the big spools to bobbins the same way. Much more economical as you don't waste woolly nylon that way. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com