Just getting to my mail. I would go to my books to look up the original recipe but I sold my complete collection several months ago. The only way I used to tie the Royal Coachman was with Fan wings. That was long ago. The few I have tied in the past couple of years have really been the wings with Calf wings. Trying to find the right feathers for Fan wings is getting harder all the time. Tony
--- On Mon, 11/5/12, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote: From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> Subject: Re: [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 2:48 PM Hi Pete, how ya been? Thanks again for the reference to Dr. Kopitnik- a life-saver. Come to find out he also saved my son-in-law's life from an aneurism years ago. If my grand-child was a boy, we were going to name him Tom. Turned out a grand-daughter. On the fly: If my memory serves me correctly... The 'Coachman' went through an evolution per say. The original coachman was a wet fly with slate or white wings and straight peacock body with golden pheasant crest tail and brown beard hackle. A Coachman dry fly- palmer hackled was next, which was usually winged with white duck wings (fanwing). A red waist made it a Royal Coachman Fanwing. Replacing the duck wings with kip tail made it a Royal Wulff. Later add a Royal Trude (swept-wing). Many dry flies became "Wulff" patterns after that- variations but not really new patterns in my mind. Tony can probably chime in and correct me or add something. DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Gramp To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: [VFB] Royal Coachman Dry Fly's Wings - what are they? So I have the day off and when I sat down at my vise to tie up 6 dozen Royal Coachmen dry flies in various sizes to restock my nearly empty flyboxes, I thought I knew the pattern by heart. Then I glanced over at the "Benchside Reference" and on the cover is what looks to be a royal coachman with calf tail wings... not with the duck quill slip wings that I originally thought. I tried looking up the pattern on google and in YouTube, but what I found was that about half of the recipes and/or pictures said upright quill wings, and the other half said calf tail upright. So I'm curious, what should the wings be for this pattern? I'm sure that either would work for catching trout, but I'm curious what the original pattern called for. (the calf tail wings remind me more of a Wulff than a Coachman, for what it is worth, but what do I know) For such a famous pattern, you would think that the recipe would be the same from one website source to another, but that's not what I found. Any help would be great! -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
