Don . . . Tiemco 518 #32 and Semperfli Nano Silk 30d. (Available at
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On Apr 3, 2017 2:22 PM, "Niclas (Gmail)" <n.runars...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Entertainment is the key to success. Some of us have to stay away from
> singing and dancing though. :)
>
> /Nick
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 PM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:
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>> I’m going to work on making the video more entertaining than a normal
>> tutorial.  That means a lot of clips of the materials and tools used,
>> comparing them to normal.  Then I’ll have section of the actual tie.  Since
>> the tie itself is not practical for most tiers, I would think entertainment
>> is the ultimate goal. And it’s even very hard to get ahold of the hooks
>> these days. I’ll make sure the video clips migrate time to time to me tying
>> without glasses or a magnifying glass just for proof of naked-eye tying.  A
>> few years more and I’ll probably need a magnifying glass to tie these.
>>
>> Thread check. I would not know what denier this is, but it’s close to
>> 50/0 denear as I can tell.  The hand-selected thread I use is so fine that
>> one 12”+/- strand of it floats up and away and disappears in a couple of
>> seconds, like real baby-spider float-silk strands.  I sent Hans some awhile
>> back.  It’s from a clothes-line that was clear tube over a spun
>> multi-filament core.  I hope to be able to show all of this on the video,
>> if I can still find a piece of the clothes-line in my stock-piles. The
>> bobbin looks like it is hanging in space unless the light shines off of it
>> just right.  My camera can catch it, don’t know if the video camera can.
>>
>> I’ll try to mix some humor in also, as I am want to do.  AAMOF, a fishing
>> sequence with me catching a small trout on a #32 dropper would be sweet.  A
>> #32 Copper John would be the ticket for a dropper.
>>
>> DOnO
>>
>> *From:* Pacres <pac...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 9:12 AM
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>>
>> Can't wait to see the video, Don. I have a couple spools of the
>> UNI-Caenis thread. Label says it is a 20 denier thread and is really fine.
>> I've only ever tried tying with it a couple times and it is quite fragile.
>> Cudos to you Don for tying at both extremes of the size scale.
>>
>> On 3 April 2017 at 09:51, Phxflytyer <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure that you have a much lighter touch then me. I am too heavy
>>> with my pressure and no matter how I try I still break the Guedebrod, even
>>> when I take it off the spools and use a regular bobbin?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> Alan Di Somma
>>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>>
>>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:20 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
>>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I never really had any problem with the 10/0 breaking. I have not
>>> tried the Vee?  thread.
>>> > Tony
>>> > --------------------------------------------
>>> > On Mon, 4/3/17, Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the making
>>> > To: "VFB List" <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>>> > Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 AM
>>> >
>>> > I also
>>> > should have mentioned that the Veveeus?????12/0 is still
>>> > stronger then the Guedebrod 10/0.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>>> >
>>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>>> > Indian."
>>> > Henry
>>> > Ford
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Alan Di
>>> > Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > When I fished the San Juan
>>> > River in New Mexico a couple of years back I brought my
>>> > tying stuff and tied some 28 and 30’s.I had Bennecci 16/0 and I liked
>>> it
>>> > better then the Guedebrod 10/0 which I thought broke too
>>> > easily. Never did like that Guedebrod.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > phxflytyerPhoenix,AZ
>>> >
>>> >  "Any man who thinks he can be
>>> > happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of
>>> > him; better take a closer look at the American
>>> > Indian."
>>> > Henry
>>> > Ford
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 3, 2017, at
>>> > 8:00 AM, Niclas (Gmail) <n.runars...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > I
>>> > started to "make" my own thread for flies smaller
>>> > than #26. Picked out a few filaments from a piece of GSP
>>> > thread, waxed, twisted and put it on a little spool. That
>>> > was TRUE spiderweb... à la super strong. Using that on a
>>> > video it would look like the fly was tying itself while you
>>> > were just moving your hand around it.  ;o)
>>> > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at
>>> > 11:39 AM, 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > I tyed
>>> > mine with 10/0 Gudebrod. Too bad they don't make  any
>>> > more. It was a finer thread than the 14/0 thread that I once
>>> > had. This hook is real small, it will fit in the gape of the
>>> > sx 32 you might find today.
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------ --------------
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 4/3/17, Pete Gramp <pete.gr...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Subject: Re: [VFB] #32 Mustad Royal Coachman Video in the
>>> > making
>>> >
>>> >  To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com"
>>> > <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>>> >
>>> >  Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 3:40 AM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  I am
>>> >
>>> >  anxiously awaiting that video - I can'r say
>>> > I've
>>> >
>>> >  ever tied anything smaller than 26, mostly because I
>>> > never
>>> >
>>> >  felt that fish would take anything smaller, but I admit
>>> > also
>>> >
>>> >  because my skill level just isn't there for it.  I
>>> > can
>>> >
>>> >  hardly fathom tying a 32 of any type (tiemco, mustad,
>>> > any
>>> >
>>> >  type), much less a naked/ blind eye!
>>> >
>>> >  I've used caenis thread on
>>> >
>>> >  26's, and that was "big" thread for
>>> > those (in
>>> >
>>> >  my opinion), I can't imagine the special materials
>>> > you
>>> >
>>> >  had to procure to tie that small of a fly.  Any
>>> > insights
>>> >
>>> >  into the materials - were any "unusual" or
>>> > special
>>> >
>>> >  for the task?
>>> >
>>> >  Well done
>>> >
>>> >  my friend!-Pete
>>> >
>>> >  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:06
>>> >
>>> >  AM, Hans Weilenmann <hans.weilenm...@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  Technically difficult to film would be right. Well
>>> >
>>> >  done, m'friend. Looking forward to the video.
>>> >
>>> >  Cheers,HansNearsighted
>>> >
>>> >  Flytiers United
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:59
>>> >
>>> >  AM, DonO <f...@tribcsp.com>
>>> >
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Well, I surprised myself. My old eyeballs are still up
>>> >
>>> >  to it.  3
>>> >
>>> >  -naked eye #32 RCs.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Making a tying video for You tube,
>>> > worked on it
>>> >
>>> >  today.  Should post
>>> >
>>> >  next week. Technically difficult to film.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Cheers,
>>> >
>>> >  DonO
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