Hi Pete,
Congratulations on the Smurf degree sport.
The Old Farts swap is as you describe it. Bit of this bit of that not sure 
about this not sure about that got lots of time to sort it. :-) 
Its a single photo posted to the thread  Old Fart Swap along with the 
recipe. You dont even have to tie a new fly it can be one you use and tied 
years ago if you like. Suggested it like this so there are none of the 
usual costs and deadlines for flys to be posted out etc. and hopefully get 
the list buzzing again. Remember those days?? Probably not if you are an 
Old Fart!
Just pick your fly take a photo add the recipe put that on the thread and 
bingo jobs done.
Hope that all makes sense Schtroumpf à Lunettes !
Regards
Keith    

On Thursday, 27 April 2023 at 00:55:59 UTC+1 Pete Gramp wrote:

> Hi all -
> I'm still alive and kickin' as well, finishing up my last week of graduate 
> studies before I earn my MSci degree in Drug Discovery & Development from 
> Drexel University, PA, USA. I get to look like a Papa Smurf sprinkled with 
> grass clippings when I get hooded during the ceremony... the robe is a 
> light shade of royal blue, the cap is white, and being in the medical 
> college, the hood is green. Quite a sight to behold... But I'll finally 
> have that parchment on the wall. After I graduate, I'll be taking a little 
> time off to fly fish (of course!) and then will be hitting the job search 
> like there's no tomorrow. 
> The old farts swap intrigues me, but before I commit to participating, can 
> someone give me more details? What type of fly, when is it due, do we 
> simply post it to this list or do we email the picture(s) and recipe to a 
> swapmeister/ host who posts everything en masse, those sorts of details?
> Great to hear from you all and see the list active again,
> -Pete
> pete....@gmail.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 5:19 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peggy,
>> Sorry to hear about your BIL. Condolences to you and your family. Amazing 
>> when you think you're  doing the right thing and it goes wrong.
>> Good to have you on board for the "swap" though. I see you are still 
>> doing youre demos and courses. Great work.
>> Gary I look forward to seeing this secret panfish fly. I would love to 
>> have a go at the crappy and sunfish. They seem pretty consistent fly rod 
>> sport.
>> I will put my fly up on here as soon as its done.
>> So far there is :
>> Peggy,
>> Gary,
>> Rene?
>> Me.
>> Plenty of room for all you other old farts out there. ONE fly and post a 
>> pic on here with the recipe. No postage to worry about, no dozens of flies 
>> to tie.
>> I'll start another thread.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 12:29:23 UTC+1 Peggy Brenner wrote:
>>
>>> I'll take part in the Old farts swap, after my BIL funeral this Friday, 
>>> he is the first of our generation to go. For 60 of his 73 years he took 
>>> insulin to live, went into a hospital for a week for dehydration and came 
>>> out in a bag.
>>>
>>> Peggy B
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:04 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>> Dont know which to try first the fly or the drink! Haha.
>>>> BUT I will deffinitly tie a few flies up. I will puty a pic up at some 
>>>> point.
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> Rene
>>>> When is carnival season? Bierfest? 
>>>>
>>>> And anyone up for an old farts swap MkII? Say ten participants and tie 
>>>> just ONE fly then put the picture of the fly and recipe on here???? No 
>>>> postage no sorting and no pressure and no loads of flies to tie. You could 
>>>> do it between naps!!?  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> KP
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 23 April 2023 at 02:08:10 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keith,  Here is the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Fly:
>>>>> https://wiflyfisher.com/patterns/Pink-Squirrel-fly-pattern.asp
>>>>> John Bethke is from Westby, Wisconsin.  
>>>>> And the recipe for the Pink Squirrel Drink:  
>>>>> https://www.bryantscocktaillounge.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Pink Squirrel
>>>>>
>>>>> 1& 1/2 oz Creme de Almond
>>>>> 1/2 oz Creme de Cacao (White)
>>>>> Large scoop Strawberry Ice Cream
>>>>>
>>>>> Mix in a blender until smooth.
>>>>> Pour into a On-The-Rocks glass
>>>>> Float a Strawberry on top.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 11:21 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha ! Thats awesome. I will have a look at my swap collections. DonO 
>>>>>> was a monster of a human in the best way. Fantasy Flies I think summed 
>>>>>> him up totally. There were , and still are, some awesome guys in this 
>>>>>> group. Shame its dropped off the page a little bit. I see Nick 
>>>>>> occassionally post on Facebook and his sense of humour is still way out 
>>>>>> there in left field :-) 
>>>>>> I will have a look for the recipe for the Pink Squirrel. I know some 
>>>>>> water it will work on for sure. And with all this 10 foot 2weight 
>>>>>> fishing 
>>>>>> its prime ammo for that method I'd say.
>>>>>> As for Air Head? Well we all get to be a bit air headish when we are 
>>>>>> young then again when we are old. So nothing wrong with being an Air 
>>>>>> Head 
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 06:13:01 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith, I missed the Beer swap.  But I was in the Drinks swap where I 
>>>>>>> tied a Pink Squirrel. More than 30 years ago I met John Bethke at a 
>>>>>>> local 
>>>>>>> sporting goods store demonstrating how to tie his fly Coincidentally 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> Pink Squirrel swap hosted by Don O is the last swap I've been a part 
>>>>>>> of. I 
>>>>>>> saw your name on the list of participants. I I fish with a Pink 
>>>>>>> Squirrel 
>>>>>>> quite a lot if there are no rises.
>>>>>>> And when I do, I sometimes think of  Don Ordes.  A few days ago I 
>>>>>>> could not find my Rope Dubbing DVD. I was about to tear the house 
>>>>>>> apart. It 
>>>>>>> took me three days to find. Nick Runnarsson hosted an Old Farts swap a 
>>>>>>> few 
>>>>>>> years back.  I tied a Gary La Fontaine fly: The Air Head.  That is the 
>>>>>>> fly's true name and no one should infer anything from that about this 
>>>>>>> tier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:33 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>>>>>> Good to hear from you sport. Yep I remember the photos Byard put 
>>>>>>>> out of his dining room table covered in boxes of flys :-)  I did 1 and 
>>>>>>>> 2 
>>>>>>>> and still have the hooks Byard got as a sample from one of the 
>>>>>>>> suppliers he 
>>>>>>>> used. That was a great forum. I till have all the swap flies from all 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> swaps we did. Tied copies but never used any of the flies. Did you do 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> Beer Swap?  Tie flies based on a local brew and send it in along with 
>>>>>>>> Beer 
>>>>>>>> coasters. I ran that swap and it was such a great variety. DonO's 
>>>>>>>> Cherry 
>>>>>>>> Bomb was literally that!!!  
>>>>>>>> The only regret I have is not ever being able to get out to the 
>>>>>>>> Sowbug show Tony Spezio ran. Could'nt afford it and now dont like the 
>>>>>>>> thought of all the travel. Hey ho. Maybe I'll hop across the English 
>>>>>>>> Channel to Cologne and see Rene!!
>>>>>>>> We should run an Old Farts Swap. No one under 50 allowed in! Hahaha
>>>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 19 April 2023 at 19:33:54 UTC+1 Gary Webb wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Keith. Great to see your name on my screen again.  I joined 
>>>>>>>>> VFB right at the end of the 2nd 100 Caddis swap.  I guess you could 
>>>>>>>>> call me 
>>>>>>>>> one of the Old Timers.  More likely an Old Fart.   I remember 
>>>>>>>>> thinking that 
>>>>>>>>> I was glad I was not the SwapMeister sorting 10,000 flys. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 3:09 AM 'KP' via VFB Mail <
>>>>>>>>> vfb-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HA!! Good to see you are still kicking around you old Blowhard 
>>>>>>>>>> :-) 
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your tough medical times bud and your 
>>>>>>>>>> brothers passing. However I'm a boy from Wolverhampton in the UK and 
>>>>>>>>>> its 
>>>>>>>>>> city motto is "Out of darkness cometh light" and your three recent 
>>>>>>>>>> additions to the "pawpaw" duty list are exactly that. The light. 
>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to 
>>>>>>>>>> them all.
>>>>>>>>>> Ive been on the list for years even before the )2 Caddis Swap. 
>>>>>>>>>> Who remembers that little swap. A Byard special for sure. I still 
>>>>>>>>>> have the 
>>>>>>>>>> flies from both of those mega swaps plus lots of the others we all 
>>>>>>>>>> did.
>>>>>>>>>> Some great guys now gone but what times they were. I worked for 
>>>>>>>>>> Orvis (yes I know) in the UK for the last 13 years of my working 
>>>>>>>>>> life. I 
>>>>>>>>>> retirred 2021 and they closed down all but one of the stores in 22. 
>>>>>>>>>> See 
>>>>>>>>>> they just didnt realise how much they need me !!! :-)  Now I just do 
>>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>>> gardening, some teaching tying and fly casting and looking after 
>>>>>>>>>> grandkids 
>>>>>>>>>> occassionally.
>>>>>>>>>> Good to hear from you all.
>>>>>>>>>> Oh and HPPY BIRTHDAY Great Grandad!! 
>>>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 23:43:00 UTC+1 Charles Alexander 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Folks: I'm still here too. Just haven't felt up to it as for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> last two yrs after covid TRIED to kill me. I spent over 70 days in 
>>>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>>>> coma,kidneys started shutting down etc etc. As soon as they'd fix 
>>>>>>>>>>> one thing 
>>>>>>>>>>> something else would pop up,with the latest thing being a positive 
>>>>>>>>>>> cologuard test and I'm supposed to have the ole colonoscopy to get 
>>>>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>>>>> checked out. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> my docs have all told me that I had the worse case of covid they 
>>>>>>>>>>> have seen and lived to tell about it. I still cannot walk without 
>>>>>>>>>>> the aid 
>>>>>>>>>>> of a walker but God has seen me this far so I don't think He's 
>>>>>>>>>>> going to 
>>>>>>>>>>> fail me now. I did lose one of my younger brothers this last July. 
>>>>>>>>>>> He went 
>>>>>>>>>>> to Wal-Mart, got inside the door and he just feel over dead. There 
>>>>>>>>>>> happened 
>>>>>>>>>>> to be a gold sematin right there and he gave my brother CPr till 
>>>>>>>>>>> the got 
>>>>>>>>>>> there and because of that we were able. Donate my brothers organs 
>>>>>>>>>>> which 
>>>>>>>>>>> either saved the lived or improved the lives
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On a better topic, two months ago we closed on a new home and 
>>>>>>>>>>> are still haven't finished moving which is a pain but we love the 
>>>>>>>>>>> new place 
>>>>>>>>>>> and it's only 5-10 minuites from two city parks, which are both 
>>>>>>>>>>> stocked 
>>>>>>>>>>> with bass and bluegills. And I did get to go fishing three times 
>>>>>>>>>>> last 
>>>>>>>>>>> Spring and we did fish each trip. Then, three and six months ago 
>>>>>>>>>>> respectively, we welcomed two new grand daughters which brings the 
>>>>>>>>>>> total to 
>>>>>>>>>>> 17 and 18 total and paw pawpaws job is to hold and spoil them. We 
>>>>>>>>>>> even have 
>>>>>>>>>>> one great grand daughter. Now, I turn 65 tomorrow, but that don't 
>>>>>>>>>>> seem old 
>>>>>>>>>>> enough to be a GREAT grandfather lol. Well, sorry for writing a 
>>>>>>>>>>> BOOK here 
>>>>>>>>>>> but trying to condense two Yrs into one email ain't easy for a blow 
>>>>>>>>>>> hard 
>>>>>>>>>>> like me lol, Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>
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