I wanted to do the pure stuff before mixing, just to prove that it could be done. 8^) Mixing this stuff is going to make for all kinds of possibilities. DonO
----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > That is why I thought of you Don :) I mixed it with some clear antron & > that blend works very well. > > Bob H > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > Bob, > > If you want to drive people insane, give them this stuff to rope! The > key > > is getting the fibers linear and overlapping. Once you do that, you can > > rope the fly hairy, fuzzy, or clean. I'll send some photos. > > DonO > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > So DonO you going to tell me how to do it? I did warn you that it was > > some > > > nasty stuff! > > > > > > Bob H > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > I've been able to rope everything so far, even that God-awful stuff > Bob > > > sent > > > > me. > > > > Learning the fundamentals is easy with those you mentioned, then > > graduate > > > to > > > > naturals and tuff stuffs. > > > > DonO > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > > > > > I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What are the requirements for a > > dub > > > > > that will work with your method? > > > > > > > > > > I assume that the dubbing materials must have long fibers. I see > that > > > you > > > > > use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others? I've never used either of > > these. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Bud > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rene, > > > > > > > > > > > > If you usually rib counter to the body wrap, you were probably > > looking > > > > for > > > > > > durability in that the rib was stronger then the body material and > > > kept > > > > > the > > > > > > cut material ends from unwrapping. When rope-dubbing, especially > on > > a > > > > > wire > > > > > > core, this is not a great threat. > > > > > > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed Hare's Ear, then just rib > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > direction of the segments, and between the segments. If ribbing > > with > > > > > > tinsel, the segments will help protect the ribbing from being cut > by > > a > > > > > > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you tie your dubbing tip to > the > > > > hook. > > > > > > The end result is still true to pattern, and tough. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can also give you a few > > variations > > > if > > > > > you > > > > > > tie in other materials at the bend. If you tie on a shell-back, > you > > > can > > > > > > pull it forwards over the tail and rib over it for a shiny ribbed > > > > stonefly > > > > > > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly. Or tie a piece of white > > > floss > > > > on > > > > > > and make a white central line up the fly tail, and ribbing it in > > > place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try roping both a black and an orange rope tied in at the back. > Do > > a > > > > > > cross-weave with the black on back. You'll get a fuzzy segmented > > > > > > over-'n-under stonefly body like a bitch creek. Many > possibilities > > > here > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a few ideas humbly submitted for your approval. > > > > > > > > > > > > DonO > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:38 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, dd and others, > > > > > > > this discussion was very informative for me. Thanks again. > > > > > > > I rope-dubbed some flies with it and came to one issue. If I > rope > > > the > > > > > dub > > > > > > > very tight I run in problems with the ribbing material. I > usually > > > rib > > > > > > > counterclockwise (opposite to the tying direction). As the rib > > > cannot > > > > go > > > > > > > into the dub it slips. Recommendations? Or simply: No rope-dub > if > > > > > > ribbing.. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rene/Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
