Hi Kevin, Graeme and all, Kev I am not surprised you use a Bibio as it was a Mr Hewetson of Westport,that came up with the pattern. According to Tom Stewarts book the original was used by Mr H on Mask to great effect. The dressing he gives is: Hook: Size 8 Body: Black,Claret,Black. Hackle: Palmered Black Rib: Silver tinsel. He also mentions another version with 4 bands tied : Red at the head then black then red then black. They used either seals fur or wool. As for the fish thoughts it was just that. A thought. Whichever way you shake it guys its a great top dropper pattern and is one I use on set ups in Scotland frequently. Talking of which I am headed there for a week in June ! going to try Loch Awe and a few of the southern lochs around Oban and Kilninver. Should be fun.
Cheers KP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern > We use the Bibio fly extensively here in Ireland. It is used during our > first big hatch of the year. The "Duckfly" is a large non biting midge. > The Bibio is especially useful during this hatch. > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of graeme-callander > Sent: 16 May 2002 11:56 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern > > > Hi Keith, > I agree with you about Oliver's Bibio and his use of Latin. The Irish wet > fly I was talking about is a different beast altogether. > I am not so sure it represents a small fish. Until trout learn to speak we > will probably never know, but my tying of a Bibio on small hooks - size 12 > down - and its colouration and that it is most successful during black midge > hatches lead me to suspect that one of its representations is black midge. > All the best > Graeme. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Passant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern > > > knowing how Mr edwards thinks he probably gave the Latin name for the > Hawthorn fly which is Bibio Marci. > The Bibio in the last few post's is a wet fly that really does not represent > a real fly at all. More likely to be a fry pattern. > The hawthorn fly is a fly found suprisingly enough on Hawthorn bushes here > in the UK and hatch around the late part of April. They are the first > landbred fly that trout take as they are very poor flyers and get blown onto > still and running water easily. the patterns you describe are Hawthorn > patterns. > My 2p > KP > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rene Zillmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern > > > > Interesting. I found a Bibio pattern in Oliver Edwards book. It is > > construkted from black foam, white yarn and some black feather fibers for > > legs.. He added a variation, called the Hawthorne fly. It has red legs. > > (really, no kidding). > > Probably the legs migrated to a red spot? > > Regards > > Rene > > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Keith Passant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Datum: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2002 19:44 > > Betreff: Re: [VFB] Content of a trout > > > > > > >More stillwater secrets revealed ! No wonder we lose the WFFC EVERY time > we > > >take part ! LOL> Damned good fly the Bibio. And as usual lots of > > variations. > > >Still think the best one is the original red spot but the orange spot > comes > > >right behind it, then there is a pearl version and as you say the Hopper > > (UK > > >style) version. > > >KP > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Paul Marriner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:42 PM > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Content of a trout > > > > > > > > >> Re: Bibio. Recently had a virtual conversation with an Aussie that > found > > >> a fly brought down under by John Horsey (stillwater expert). It's the > > >> Bibio Hopper and they have found it very effective. I've seen slightly > > >> different versions of the body: red in middle or rear two-thirds black, > > >> front third red. The Bibio Hopper has a throat of golden pheasant > > >> tippets, a wide flat silver rib, and a soft black hackle at the front. > > >> Cheers, > > >> Paul > > >> -- > > >> Paul Marriner > > >> Outdoor Writing & Photography. Member OWAA & OWC. Author of Atlantic > > >> Salmon, Ausable River Journal, Miramichi River Journal, and Modern > > >> Atlantic Salmon Flies. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/2002 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/2002 >
