I always find it interesting that womething that works for
one may not work too well for another.  Harmen suggests that
you pack the deer hair on to a bare hook shank.  I can't get
it to work that way because the shank of the hook is so
smooth that the hair seems to slip and slide around the
shank after it is spun.  I always spin the deer/antelope
hair on a double base of tightly wound thread, which seems
to prevent the spun hair from slipping.

Larry Johnson

Big J
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/02 07:50PM >>>
One requirement for easier packing of deer hair is to not
start with any
thread on the shank of the hook. Only tie in the thread at
the bend and add
some cement. With no thread on the hook shank the hair will
slide easier and
pack better.
After spinning each bunch of hair onto the hook make one
wrap forward of
this bunch and pack. Repeat this for each successive bunch
of hair.

Harmen



> Great question, Del!
>
> I'm with Allan on the deer hair bugs but for a differrent
reason.  No
matter
> how hard I try I just can't get spun hair packed tightly.
 I've tried any
> number of ways to pack the clumps together and all
different diameters of
> hair bunches, all to no avail.  Mine usually end up
looking like a little
> brush with all sorts of gaps between the fibers.  I'm
really humbled
> whenever I examine the divers, poppers and frogs in a fly
shop that look
> like they were carved out of balsa and expertly painted. 
I guess it's not
> that big a deal as my creations occasionally do fool a
bass into eating
> them.
>
> Again, this was a question for the pros but suggestions
are always
> appreciated.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> >From: Allan Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] A question for the pros.
> >Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:06:57 -0500
> >
> >
> > >Subject:  [VFB
> > > Listers,
> > >       Now is the time for everyone to fess up on a
little secret. What
> >is
> > >you deepest tying failure?
> >
> >I am a poor tyer of deer hair flies do to a poor sense
of symmetry.
After
> >I make my initial trim, I usually find one side longer
than the other,
and
> >in my efforts to make the other side shorter, it usually
ends up shorter
> >than the formerly short side, so I then start trimming
on the formerly
> >shorter side which is now longer than the short side but
won't be much
> >longer...............I've wound up with some size 16
deer hair flies tied
> >on size 2/0 hooks!
> >
> >
> >WHOOPS!  I shouldn't have answered this anyway.  It was
a question for
the
> >pros.
> >
> >
> >Allan
> >
> >
> >Allan Fish
> >Greenwood, IN
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>
>
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