Ian, when you have finished please forward it on to me - a great concept.
Regards,    Grollo
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From: "Ian Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] New Swap Idea


> See if you can get the boxdown under as well.. sounds like a cool idea for
> new flies..
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rene Zillmann)
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> Subject: Re: [VFB] New Swap Idea
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:33:15 +0200
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> John,
> this is really a nice idea. I would like to see the box crossing the pont.
> Pls put me on the distribution list.
> Rene
> Germany
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> Von: John Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2002 21:18
> Betreff: [VFB] New Swap Idea
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>  >Okay, folks, let's get back to our roots. Flies and
>  >swaps. I just joined a swap on another list I hang out
>  >on, Westfly, which is a list for ff'ers from northern
>  >Cal, Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Montana. Before I
>  >outline the swap, let me say that the guy who started
>  >it on Westfly borrowed it from FAOL, so I don't feel
>  >like I'm plagiarizing his idea. Apparently, the FAOL
>  >swap started with tying materials, but I'm thinking we
>  >can do it with flies. The one on Westfly is for flies,
>  >too.
>  >
>  >Let's say, just for example, we start with 10 people,
>  >each person ties three flies and sends them to me. Out
>  >of the 30 flies, I take the ones I want and replace
>  >them with at least the same number I took (or more if
>  >I want). The flies I put in don't have to be the same
>  >as the ones I orginally tied and they don't have to be
>  >all the same. I then send them to the next person on
>  >the list. That person can take as many or as few flies
>  >as he wants, but he must replace them with at least as
>  >many as he takes (or more). He then sends them on to
>  >the next person who does the same and so on.  The
>  >number of flies in the box will gradually increase or
>  >at least remain the same while the mix of flies will
>  >change. Remember, the flies you put in can be totally
>  >different from the flies you originally tied.
>  >Theoretically, if no one cheats the box could go
>  >around perpetually with different flies each time it
>  >comes to you.
>  >
>  >I know this sounds kind of weird, but I think it might
>  >be interesting. This wouldn't work with any group
>  >except one like VFB, since it depends on basically
>  >fair, honest, upright and just plain fine folks,
>  >exactly the like the ones on this list.
>  >
>  >Anyway, if there's any interest in this, let me know.
>  >If anyone has any suggestion, please say so. Don't
>  >want to have too many restrictions or rules, would
>  >like to keep it to trout flies and of course no
>  >ridiculously easy flies, since it's not fair to
>  >everyone else. If you think this a crazy idea, don't
>  >hesitate to say that, too. Once the box has gone
>  >around a few times, we could, with the vote of
>  >everyone involved, donate the flies to a cause or
>  >maybe auction them off and donate the money to TU or
>  >FFF or or the Boy Scouts or see just how long we can
>  >keep it going.
>  >
>  >Okay, that's it. Please post your responses to the
>  >list so everyone can get a feel for how this crazy
>  >idea goes over. If it looks like there might be enough
>  >interest (I'm thinking at minimum ten people), I'll
>  >post a deadline and so on.
>  >
>  >One last note, 10 participants was just a "for
>  >instance" kind of thing. I we had say, 25 tiers at 4
>  >flies each, it would make a real nice variety to start
>  >out with.
>  >
>  >                         -John
>  >                          Oregon
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