For any type or eyes, I tie them on first.  I make a couple of figure 8
wraps and then I wrap the base of the dumbbell several times; keeping the
thread above the wire of the hook.  Then a couple more figure 8's.   So 2
Figure 8's - 4 circular wraps at the base - then 2 more figure 8's.  Then I
use hard as nails on the top and bottom thread.   I then complete the rest
of the fly.   By the time I get back to the eyes, it is fairly solid.  Then
by finishing up with a couple of firgue 8 and base wraps, it is pretty
solid.  This way there is not as much build up.  I also use 8/0 trhead as
well.  I know it may be too thin - and it takes some practice not to break
it.


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