Guys don't for get about the ole humble starling.  You can get soft
hackles for a #24 on the wings.

Bob Haering
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Subject: Re: [VFB] soft hackle question

I use Metz hen necks for small soft hackle and for dry wings. On the
'ear'-corner are really small ones. Don't have hen necks from Whiting,
guess
they are much better.
Ahhh... I forgot, I have a cheapo hen neck/saddle from Pardridge, has
small
ones too.
Rene

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Datum: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 00:37
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>
>I want to add a soft hackle to a couple of nymph patterns.  The problem
I
am encountering is that most of the stuff i have seems to be better
suited
for 14 to 16 flies and up of course.  Now with that said I have not
"tried"
all the feathers i have at my disposal.  Can you fine folks make a
suggestion?  I want to have a small soft hackle on some red fox squirrel
nymphs, pheasant tail nymphs and a couple others in sizes 16 and 18.
Now,
the materials that I have at my house "in stock" you might say are:
India
hen necks, partridge, grouse, metz hen saddle and pheasant rump.
>
>DonO if you read this, Whiting has a beautifully speckled patch that is
black and grey.  Substitute for partridge.  What is the name of that.
Chris
helm was selling them at the tying expo this winter and I was going to
buy
one but I had just received a partridge skin, so I didnt buy it.  Now I
wish
I had it because I think that that speckle would look real nice.
>
>john ridderbos



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