Really like the colours Byard.  Just catching up on my mail today.  I will
have one on orser before the end of the day My old one is starting to look a
little bashed.

Take it easy,

Kev

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Byard Miller
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 6:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VFB] The Final Word...



Obviously I didn't clarify my thoughts and concerns adequately in my
last post on this subject.

Let me reiterate...this is a fly fishing / tying forum...it's sole
purpose is to expand, expound, discuss and further our enlightenment
of our favorite pastime. This does not now include or has it
previously included religious or political discussions! Those topics
are vehemently discouraged and will not be tolerated! The diversity
of the members on this forum is far reaching and both religious and
political beliefs are far too personal and for some all-encompassing
and can only lead to bad feelings among those who may disagree with
"your" beliefs.

In addition, I do not condone or encourage that you portray your
feelings in regards to these subjects by directly contacting
individuals directly. I obviously have no control over that
occurrence, but I do know from past experiences that this will
generally result in the same type of resentments and ultimately hurt
the structure of this forum.

I'm certain, that if you feel strongly about expressing your
religious or political beliefs, that a search of Google or Yahoo or
Rec Groups will result in a much more appropriate venue for you to
share your ideas and ideals. This IS NOT the place!

This list has enjoyed eight years of respectful discussions of our
most impassioned hobby. Current membership approaches 600
individuals. Each of us have our own religious and political
agendas...thank goodness that we don't all express them here. Can you
imagine the chaos?

On the other hand...this is also a developing family. Many of us have
met, fished and tied flies together, and we all want and need to know
of the well-being or difficulties of our internet friends. I, for
one, do not consider a request for a prayer for a suffering loved
one, a religious topic, but more a plea for support from ones family
and friends. Personally, I'd prefer that responses to such requests
be made off-list as I do, but I do understand that urgency and
concern often result in on-list replies. You've never found me to
object to such situations. My heart and my thoughts always go out to
any of our members that suffer from disturbing circumstances.

I certainly don't mean to be heavy-handed or become the "meany", but
I've witnessed the result of un-moderated forums that allow
completely open discussions. They disappear! Please consider that
this venue is provided by your's truly...I can always take my ball
and go home...;^)

If any of you feel a strong desire to discuss this further, please
contact me directly. You know how to get a hold of me.

...byard

PS and BTW...I guess no one liked the new VFB hat colors?

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