Deb, When I was tying for the resorts and a couple of shops, Wooly buggers were the main flies. I could run them off pretty quick on the Norvise. I had one old bobbin and three spools. I would load Olive, Black and brown. That covered about all the colors I neeeded then. When I started tying Chili Peppers and White River Demons I needed Floro Orange and Floro Red. I decided to get some more bobbins and spools. That is when it all went down hill. The new bobbins were crap. I quit tying for the shops, I only tie for one resort down the road. Nice people and it does give me a few extra dollars for toys. I still only use the old bobbin, the new ones stay in the draw Tony
"Deb Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tony >I had a couple of his new bobbins and I ditched them a long time ago. >I felt that it wasted the thread and was more inconvenient to use. >It drove me nuts!! >I ended up selling the Nor-vise also. It was an expensive dubbing >twister. :) I like to wind my materials on very tight and I couldn't >do that with the Nor-Vise. I could see why a production tier would >like it but it just didn't work for my kind of tying. >Deb > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Tony Spezio >Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:57 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [VFB] Which is the right knot who really knows? - Now Norvise > >Joyce, >I use the blue dental floss pullers from the Health Care dept.. I bet >they are the same thing. >About the bobbins. A good while back we talked at a good deal about the >thread and bobbins. You mentioned you would loose about 18" of thread to >preload the bobbin or to lock the bobbin after finishing the fly. I had >the old bobbin and you had the new ones. After I got some the new ones I >found out what you meant. The old bobbin will preload with a couple of >inches of thread extracted. When the fly was finished, Just a pull of >about six inches was all that was needed to lock the bobbin. The thread >would stay put. To start the next fly you would start the thread on the >hook, give the bobbin a light pull and the bobbin would retract right up >to the hook. NOT SO with the new bobbins, You have to extract about 18 >inches of thread to load it. If you don't preload, the bobbin will drop >almost to the floor when you start tying and let the bobbin go. Like >you, I have had long talks with Norm on this. Norm suggests that you >preload the bobbin the first time. When the bobbin is pre loaded, keep >it that way till your tying session is over. You use a hackle pliers for >this, I use the button on the end post as Larry does. To me this would >discourage some tyers from using the auto bobbin. I have three sets of >the new bobbins that are in the draw seldom used, I use the only old one >I have 99% of the time. Another problem is the hole in the new spools >are larger than the old ones so they are loose in the old retractor. I >have put an oversize "0" ring on the old retractor so I can use the new >spools and change back to the thinner "0" ring for the old spools >At times I am forced to use the new bobbin. I preload the spool, re wrap >the extended thread back on the spool, one of my new bobbins has the >thread extended almost 20" . It seems I always grab that one. This is >the bobbin that I lock the thread at the button on the post. The old >bobbin is a dream to use, Wish he had a couple that I could get from him. >Norm says he had to make a change in the spring material because of >returns due to spring breakage. I told him I would buy any old type >bobbins he might have. He has none for sale. >Like You, I make it work, but I am not happy with it but then again, it >is almost impossible to tie Norlander style with the auto bobbin. >Alan, >When I see you in March I will give you a demo between the two. >Tony > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
