Tom,

Do you know where there might be a pic or recipe for the "hot new fly for
the Weber River"?

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From: "Tom Davenport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Patterns and Presentation


> This will probably get buried with all of the other posts on this
> subject, but how about the presentation the fly itself makes?  Up until
> this year I was certain that the San Juan Worm tied with a piece of
> Ultra Chenille  lashed to a hook with both tips burned to a taper was
> the only one to use.  i had seen versions of the San Juan made by
> wrapping a Mustad "All Around" style hook  (this is a hook that has a
> large hump in its bend and then the barbed part bends abruptly and
> points straight toward the eye of the hook) with vinyl, but figured
> something that stiff would never work.  It just seemed to be common
> sense that that the chenille would wave in the water and look "wormy".
>
> Well, during the summer I went fishing with a friend who had a "hot new
> fly" for the Weber River.  It was  the wrapped hook version of the San
> Juan wrapped with a fluorescent pink-orange kite string.  I put on my
> chenille version and thought "I'll show this guy" and he out fished me
> ten to one.  The Browns were simply slamming his fly!  Finally I
> swallowed my pride and asked him for one and immediately started
> catching fish.  Since then I have tied some of my own and the are
> amazingly productive especially in off color water.
>
> So here is my theory.  Even though the hook itself is stiff I bet the
> shape causes  it to twist and wobble in the water creating an illusion
> of motion... in other words, the fly itself is making a presentation
> similar to a lure.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Tom
>
> On Nov 1, 2004, at 9:13 PM, mark romero wrote:
>
> > Tony, VERY interesting..........and Congrats on the new great grand
> > daughter. That's a blessing for sure. What'a ya think? Bamboo first?
> > lol, mark.......
> >
> >> From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: [VFB] Patterns and Presentation
> >> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:34:23 -0600
> >>
> >> I kind of been following this tread so I will post about yesterday. I
> >> have not been on the water for over two months due to reasons I will
> >> not
> >> discuss on the list. It has been raining for several days. I have been
> >> trying to get caught up on tying flies. Yesterday morning the dam was
> >> shut down and the water was as low as it will get, great for wading
> >> but
> >> I was forced to fish from my boat. I was tying and just could not
> >> resist
> >> it anymore so I geared up and hit the river.
> >> I motored up to Tucker Shoals and dropped anchor. When I got up there
> >> there was one fly fisher wading at Tucker.
> >> I tied on a brown soft hackle cast for about 1/2 hour had a bump .
> >> Changed flies several times and nothing. I noticed the wading
> >> fisherman
> >> catching trout an about every third cast. It was raining real hard.
> >> The
> >> harder it rained the more hookups he had. I only had another bump on a
> >> brown Sowbug. As he got closer I asked what he was using, guess what,
> >> A
> >> brown sowbug like I had on the tippet. He caught trout right in front
> >> of
> >> the boat while we were talking, caught trout behind the boat too. In
> >> desperation, I tied on a broken down Chili Pepper, on the first cast I
> >> hooked up, big brown, They are heading up river to the reds at the
> >> dam.
> >> I never got it close to the boat before I lost it. I am now getting a
> >> bit wet so I started drifting back home. A couple of casts later I
> >> hooked into another large trout. Could see the flashing in the water
> >> so
> >> I guess it was a Bow. That fish broke me off. I got to thinking about
> >> the guy at Tucker. He was using a strike Indicator (Bobber ) as I know
> >> it. Our presentations were the same an far as I could see. When he was
> >> by the boat we were drifting the same fly almost side by side.
> >> Was the indicator the answer, holding the fly at a given depth, did it
> >> give the fly a certain movement that I did not have, Did I twitch the
> >> fly and scare off the fish. Don't know, Maybe I was away from the
> >> water
> >> too long.
> >> My grand daughter just got here with our new 6 week old Great grandson
> >> we haven't seen yet.
> >> Got to go.
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >>
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