I was directed toward the 37160 and "the brightest neon red color" by the guy in the Sportsmen's Warehouse when I moved to the west and inquired about a fly to trick the rainbows in a local river.  Just wrap the hook shank.  It does work.  I've just tied some with 3mm pom-poms of different colors.  Gonna fish them at lunch today!

Todd

>From: "KEITH PASSANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [VFB] Tom's San Juan Hook
>Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:51:31 -0000
>
>The 37160 Mustad and the Owner look just like a Yorkshire Sedge
>hook.
>Have a look here:
>http://www.partridge-of-redditch.co.uk/Hooks/TROUT/TROUT24.htm
>
>KP
>----- Original Message ----- From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [VFB] Tom's San Juan Hook
>
>
>>I just checked my new Cabela's flyfishing catalog and they list the
>>Mustad
>>37160 in sizes 1 through 20.  Sure looks like the one in the photo.
>>
>>They show a SJW on a 37160, one like in your photo, and also a
>>bloodworm on
>>a bend-back style hook.  They don't list the 2nd hook style in the
>>hook
>>section, and neither does The Fly Shop in Redding.
>>It's similar to the Tiemco TMC 411S, which is a saltwater hook.
>>Maybe Paul
>>or someone else has a line on it.
>>
>>BTW, if you don't get the catalog from The Fly Shop in Redding, CA,
>>you
>>should.  It's a great catalog and every year it's published with
>>up-to-date
>>applications and patterns using almost all of the new materials
>>available,
>>plus all the new gear and gadgets. www.theflyshop.com  No
>>affiliation- I
>>just like their catalog- and it's free.
>>
>>DonO
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Marriner"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:40 AM
>>Subject: Re: [VFB] Tom's San Juan Hook
>>
>>
>>>Tom, although it's not 100% clear from the photo, it looks like
>>>the
>>>common "English Bait Hook" style. This is a Mustad 37160,
>>>available in
>>>sizes 2 - 12. Smaller sizes, 10 - 16, are available in Talon
>>>TA-SH2200,
>>>and Tiemco TMC 205BL (if you can find these as they don't seem to
>>>be on
>>>the Umpqua website); and likely others.
>>>Cheers,
>>>Paul
>>>http://www.galesendpress.com
>>>--
>>>Paul Marriner
>>>Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member:
>>>OWAA &
>>>OWC.
>>>Author of Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to Choose &
>>>Use
>>>Fly-tying Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River
>>>Journal,
>>>Ausable River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon.
>>
>>
>


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