I, for one, think that any fly tied by anyone, even beginners, is worthy of my time in a swap and I am happy to get it. Each of us, at one time in our lives, was a beginner..and our flies turned out, sometimes, not to the best of standards nor, for that matter, to our liking. SO as for me..I welcome all beginners in all swaps and have found that many times, even the "simple" patters have great application for real life fishing. Count me as one who wants and welcomes all people in all swaps. BTW..I hope not to ever enter a swap where I have to take 2 hours to tie a fly..I'm not a salmon fly tier for this very reason...too time consuming. Joyce

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