Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies

Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:35:14 -0800

Keith,

When I was tying for the IOFF swap, I also tied extras with variations using CDC, partridge, peacock ice dub instead of peacock herl, various colored wire combinations, various awesome hair combinations, etc.  You got one of the variations as did some others.  I've finally decided on "my" favorite combination of Byard's Kicker and will tie some for all the IOFF swappers.  The key elements of Byard's pattern remains intact, but after playing around with versions Byard and his buddy Howard tied, I got some good ideas.  Both of these guys "tend" to outfish me but I don't rub cheese and Powerbait on my flys.  ;-)


Murf
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From: "KEITH PASSANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:03:46 -0000

Hi Murf,
I just put the pattern on from Byards fly but yours is slightly different. I assume the hackle is CDC? Can you have a look and just let me know the differences. Looks like CDC and some Lite Brite type dubbing not peacock herland partrdge?????
Cheers
KP
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies

Keith,

I think mine is on the VFB patterns list under Byard's Killer Kaddis with a Kicker if I didn't send it.


Murf
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From: "KEITH PASSANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:30:56 -0000

And the pattern is there too now. Thanks Ed
KP
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Roden
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies

I'll put it on the list because I think I still owe it to Keith for the IOFF swap (you can see a picture of it at http://fnfwilts.tripod.com/id15.html) - this is adapted from another pattern I found in a book - they actually used epoxy glue to make each of the segments, but beads are so easier.

Hook: 12-16 Dry Fly hook
Thread:  Black Uni 6/0
Body: 2 Black 8/0 Seed Beads (or resized based on hook)
Butt: 1 Red 8/0 Seed Bead (or resized based on hook)
Legs: 1 Grizzly Hackle, single or double wrap (preference)

I use dry fly hooks since they are usually thinner, and the glass seed beads don't have a large opening.  Experiment with the length and size of the beads to match the area you are fishing.  Slide each of the beads on first.  Start the thread behind the butt segment.  Build up just enough to keep the bead on.  Loop between the red and middle black bead.  Again, build up just enough to keep the bead in place.  In between the 2 black beads, tie in and wrap the hackle for the legs.  At the eye, build up and tie off.  I add a drop of glue in between each bead, including the back and at the eye just to stabilize it.  Since it's going to sink, doesn't matter much.

On 12/24/05, Reuven Segal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

G'day there Ed:

 

Would you mind mailing me the pattern and any other info that may be important please.

 

Many thanks,

 

Reuven

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Roden
Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2005 1:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies

 

You can weight them or design them differently - I have a glass bead ant that I use to fish subsurface.  One of the articles I read commented that you don't really see ants stay on top of the water long - they struggle and start to sink.  This pattern is great on Paint Creek here by my house - I'll fish it as a dropper with an adams as my indicator.

On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I was wondering if I'm the only one that does this. I weight some "Dry Flies" with lead wire to make them sink...There is a few in particular, and I have had real good luck with it... Foam Beetles, Foam Spiders (or any bluegill foam fly with rubber legs).. Ants, and letort hoppers..

At least THIS time of the year because I only fish for bluegill (and bass( because there are NO trout here. The fish are not feeding on top, even in the late evening, like they do in the Spring/Summer.. So, I started weighting these flies to "get the flies to where the fish are". Anybody else do this??? Any others you weight that I didn't mention and you have good luck with. That weighted Letort Hopper, tied in a dark brown (almost black) with rubber segmented legs is great, because around here, one of the best fishing for brim is done with hook, sinker, bobber, and live crickets.. Well, by tying those in dark color to look like a cricket, and "twitching" it through the water to make it look alive..... It is a great fly....Or, am I just a nutcase of the group??? Allan Fish you do NOT get to answer that LOL... All the DVD's, Tapes I have seen say to "experiment"... so I do. All you other "dry fly weighters" come out of the closet and join Me LOL... Chuck

 




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