Nick, Yes, I you are right, wrapping away from you left handed will unwind the thread. I just got my directions wrong and you did what I said to do, "correct" me if I am wrong. LOL To check it out, I just went out to the vise and wrapped left landed both ways.. It proved one thing, I will never make it as a left hand tyer. LOL Tony
--- Niclas Runarsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong here, Tony... but wouldn't > wrapping right handed > AWAY FROM you twist the thread the same way as > wrapping left handed TOWARDS > you? > > /Nick > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För > Anthony Spezio > Skickat: den 1 oktober 2006 15:31 > Till: [email protected] > Ämne: RE: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question > > > Nick has some good pointers, I well just add to > this. > If you are tying right handed wrapping away from > you, > to remove the twist, grasp the bobbin by the neck > and > spin it "TOWARDS" the hook eye. This will untwist > the > thread. If you are tying left handed towards you, > (I > have seen this done)thread will untwist itself. > Left handed tyers, If I am wrong, correct me. Most > left handed tyers I have seen tie like right > handers. > Now that should be a thread, left and right hand > tyers. > Tony > > --- Niclas Runarsson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Chuck, > > > > Check out > > > http://www.gudebrod.com/fishing2005/BorgerColor.htm > > for an online > > Borger Color System chart. > > > > Further info on your threads: > > Your black 8/0 is a 67 Denier thread. Quite thin > > compared to most other > > manufacturers 8/0's. The fact that you have no > > problem with tying it off > > doesn't surprise me. > > Your 6/0 is a 125 Denier thread which is quite a > > difference to the 8/0. Try > > to untwist it before whip-finishing and see if > that > > helps. It did for me. > > > > /Nick > > > > > > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Anthony > Spezio > > Skickat: den 1 oktober 2006 14:22 > > Till: [email protected] > > Ämne: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question > > > > > > The BCS before the # is BOGER COLOR SYSTEM. A # is > > assigned to a particular color. The 20's are Green > > shades,, 40's Yellow shades, 70's Red shades > > 90's Brown shades and the 100's Dark Colors, > Gray's > > Blues and Black. > > Gary Borgers fly pattern recipies are written up > > using > > his coloring system numbers as are some other > > recipes. > > There is a little booklet with the color charts on > > them. You can get one from a flyshop that carries > > Gudebrod thread, they are also available on line. > > "Borger Color System Guide and Data Record > Booklet" > > Just for info. > > Tony > > > > --- Chuck Alexander > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > MeddelandeNick: Thanks for the info.. I have > only > > > three spools and only tried two.. I have a red > > 6/0 > > > #BCS85 125 denier a black 8/0 BCS 118(don't > know > > > the denier on it, but I suspect about 80-90, but > > it > > > tied off OK) The one I had trouble with, as I > was > > > trying to tie chili peppers with it is a 6/0 > Fire > > > Orange BCS77 125 denier...It is the one that > gave > > me trouble.. The > > > red, like i said is the same weight, but I > haven't > > tried it. I'm > > > starting to think that I just made too many > winds > > on the whip finish.. > > > Chuck > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Niclas Runarsson > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:16 PM > > > Subject: RE: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question > > > > > > > > > With a 'G' on the rim of the spool, it should > be > > > size G polyester thread (250 Denier)... thick > > > thread. Gel spun thread would make it 'GX 1' or > > 'GX > > > 2' on the rim (and the thread white). > > > > > > Gudebrod tying threads are quite generously > > waxed > > > compared to most other threads, but personally > > I've > > > never found it making them 'slippery'. The > > > difference I would note is that it makes them > > easier > > > to dub, they hold the materials better... and it > > > keeps the filaments from coming apart. > > > > > > Which size is it you're having the whip-finish > > > problem with? > > > > > > /Nick > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > > Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Peter > > Gramp > > > Skickat: den 30 september 2006 19:54 > > > Till: [email protected] > > > Ämne: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question > > > > > > > > > Hey, Chuck! What type of thread is it? I > > know > > > the brand is Gudebrod, but some of their > products > > > are 'slipperier' than others. If it is gel-spun > > (it > > > has a G on the rim of the spool), you can take a > > > quick pass of a lighter to melt it... but I > almost > > > always burn some hackle or something - like my > > > goatee - if doing that.) ;) When you tie the > > whip > > > finish, try to do it on bare hook-stem, > continuing > > > the thread in the same way it was wrapped just > > > prior. What else... hmm... 6 rotations is > plenty > > > for even the largest of flies -- one of my > biggest > > > faults 9at least with tying flies) is a > monstrous > > > head with a zillion wraps for the whip-finish. > > The > > > bulk of the knot keeps it from tightening fully, > > so > > > it then comes loose and the fly starts to > 'un-tie' > > > itself. It could honestly be any number of > > things, > > > but they're the ones I've experienced firsthand, > > and > > > I've seen it often in others, both older tyers > and > > > newer ones. > > > Hope that this helps, and feel free to ask > > more > > > questions - though I'll be out fishin' for the > > first > > > time in literally months! > > > Best wishes and tight wraps, > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > On 9/30/06, Chuck Alexander > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > Folks: It's probably something a "rookie > > tier" > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
