"Man, I wish I had the money to attend some of these
> shows, cause five minutes in person could be like 5 YEARS of trial and
> error,"  Chuck



Chuck,

When you do get to go to a show, make sure you plan it carefully- not just
getting there- but being there.  There's usually from 50 to 200 or more
tiers scheduled for a show- in rotation mostly.  You've only got a 6 - 8
hours a day to see what you need to see.  Make a list of what/who you want
to see.  Try to get a tier's schedule beforehand, especially if they list
what the tier is specializing in for his/her demos, and the times each day
they will be tying.  If you bring a video camera, make sure you get
permission to video the procedure from management and the tier.  Some shows
don't allow cameras or video cameras in the building- though that's not too
many.  Some tiers sell CD's of their procedures, thus don't want videos
taken.

But if you can and do bring a video camera, usually the tiers who are doing
elementary techniques won't mind you videotaping their demo.  I've been
video'd dozens and dozens of times doing the rope-dub, and have directed
100's to the vfb article for the videos and instruction there.

Also, if it's a crowded show, as many of them are, you may not be able to
get close enough to the tier to see or hear what they're doing, and both are
just as important.  This can be frustrating for attendees.  The most
anticipated tiers will have a crowd waiting at the table even before their
tying time, so that has to be dealt with too.

I'm just pointing out some of the things I've seen after attending shows for
the last 12 years as a demo tier and watcher.  Preparation is the key.

DonO





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question


> Henk: Thanks for the info.. I guess I just haven't read the right books,
or
> seen the right video.. Man, I wish I had the money to attend some of these
> shows, cause five minutes in person could be like 5 YEARS of trial and
> error, Chuck
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Henk Verhaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question
>
>
>
> On 2 Oct, 2006, at 22:25, Chuck Alexander wrote:
>
> > I see.. Thanks for the info.. BTW, ppl talk about "splitting" the
> > thread... Why would you want to split it???  This must something I  am
nor
> > familiar with... Or forgot (probably the latter), Thanks, Chuck
>
> YOu know about dubbing loops? You can achieve the same, easier,
> quicker and with less bulk by splitting your thread and putting
> dubbing between the two halves of the split thread instead of the two
> legs of the loop. And you don't need a dubbing loop weight/spinner (a
> whorl) to keep the loop closed and twist it, since you have your
> bobbin hanging there doing the same thing. THe only advantage of a
> loop is that you can make a loop, twist it, then let it hang for
> wrapping at a later stage. With a split thread, you have to wrap once
> you have inserted and twisted the dubbing (or other material).
>
> Cheers
>
> Henk
>
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