Great advice Glenn. The first thing I ever teach someone going to the river for the first time is how to sit and watch a river. Just to sit for 10 minutes or so and let the river tell it's first secret and then to approach. I "hunt" the river as well. Sometimes it seems like magic when a fish reveals it's self in a shallow run after minutes of watching and being almost certain that nothing could hold there.
Lane McKellar Team Leader, IS-SCM Pennsylvania Distribution Center Voice: (717) 530 - 4503 Fax: (717) 530 - 1883 Cell: (717) 372 - 5499 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 208 East Dykeman Rd. Shippensburg PA 17257 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Overton Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VFB] Ask someone if you can watch them fly fish ... Hi George , Years ago I have had strangers on the Beaverkill and I have taken many here on the Kootenai River where I live now ,ask if they could sit back on the bank and watch me as I did with many myself that were outstanding fly fisherman on their home waters. So if you get a chance to just watch ,even the great unknowns do so . But please stay well back as far as thirty feet or more and treat it as you were deer hunting. If you walk up to the shore line ,that's to close and you will definitely ruined his fishing and disturbed the fish to take a fly . So hide back into the trees and grass and don't move. and don't sit on the shore where your position between him and to where he's fishing. Stay behind him a little and be sure you don't get hook on his back cast , you may be to close. Don't wear light colors it spook the fish ,I wear green allot as for ,bright color clothing ,leave that to the golf courses and tennis courts. Many feel that standing in the water with waders is fly fishing and that's really get me a little grumpy . 90 % of the time they are standing in the middle of a feeding lane. First you never wade out in a stream and start fishing . You stop and watch for a while and most of the time the fish are feeding just a foot or two from shore.line your standing on. I have caught allot of trout on the Beaverkill , Delaware River ,Madison and here , over eighteen inches in less then fourteen inches of water ,well below the knees. I have been known to be back from the shore line, ten feet or more ,and well below or above . Most fly fisherman just fly fish , I fly fish as a hunter ,Definitely a difference both on the surface and below . I love passing my skill unto others and being right handed I usually have someone stand close behind me ,about four feet , by my left shoulder . My best teaching aid I created years ago ,I carry a two inch round fishing bobber on a six foot leader ,attach to a duck decoy lead anchor. Then I have then cast their dry flies to hit the bobber on a float in all positions. More can be learn with this target practice method in a hour then trying to learn by creating bad presentation habits . A duck hunter doesn't shoot in the middle of a flock of birds ,but his aim is center at one duck for each shot , fly fishing is the same ,unless your trolling a streamer or nymph ,then I swing the fly a few inches above their noise or dead drift down to then ,I always twitch my flies to get the fish attention. Glenn Overton ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Back to Basics Bugger > Chuck, > > Yea, a simple design that WORKS: we are all striving > for that. Jim Teeny just uses what he tyed over 40 > years ago. I have never met Jim but I have a friend > that has fished with him on several occassions. So, > naturally, I asked:"What fly did Jim fish." My friend > responded that Jim fishes ONLY his Teeny nymph--no > matter what. And guess what--he catches his share of > fish. I do wish it would be like that for me. I get > tired of everyone telling me what i need to catch > fish. Jim Teeny proves that a good design works--no > matter what! Nuff said. > > I keep promising myself that I'll "simplify" my tying; > lasts about a week or two. We are, are own worst > ememies. I to see the better MOUSE TRAP and jump on > board. Not too often now--I'm 55 and I don't believe > that newer is better. I think the CDC fad is finally > over. All we have heard about for a couple of years is > CDC. I am trying to get back to the basics. I mean the > idea is to catch fish--right? > > Thanks for your e-mail. > > geo > > --- Chuck Alexander > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> George: I found it... Thanks for the tips.. Hard to >> believe a fly so simple >> "just one material" would be so good on all those >> species... But, I guess we >> can over complicate things when we want to, Chuck >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Back to Basics Bugger >> >> >> > Chuck, >> > >> > Do a search in Yahoo or Google: type in "Jim >> Teeny" >> > or just try typing--www.jimteeny.com (I just did >> this >> > and it does COME up).Just look around in there; >> you'll >> > find lots of information. This is a very simple >> fly >> > tyed with only pheasant tail fibers. Jim Teeny has >> > fished all over the globe and caught about every >> > species of fish on that one fly. >> > >> > I beleive the Teeny company has expanded to >> marketing >> > sinking lines, pheasant tails in many colors, >> hooks >> > and videos. Whatever, it is an effective fly and I >> am >> > never without a few. I like the fly in the natural >> > pheasant tails and the orange color--works for me. >> I >> > tye them in just a couple of sizes with #4 being >> my >> > favorate and then a smaller version in #8 & #10. >> > Simple and easy! >> > >> > geo >> > >> > --- Chuck Alexander >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> George: Can you tell me where I can find pics >> and/or >> >> recipe for that "teeny >> >> fly"??. Also, do you know if it catches bluegills >> >> too?? Thanks, Chuck >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "George Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 3:43 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Back to Basics Bugger >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tom, >> >> > >> >> > Interesting: I too have carried buggers for >> years. >> >> And >> >> > I have not kept count, but I beleieve that I >> have >> >> > caught more fish on those flies than all others >> >> > combined. I do favor the "Chili Pepper" as tied >> by >> >> Mr. >> >> > Spezio. A simple fly and a simple solution to >> the >> >> ever >> >> > vexing peoblem of: THE PERFECT FLY. If I don't >> >> know >> >> > what to fish I tye on a Pepper. I am sure other >> >> colors >> >> > and variations work well. >> >> > >> >> > I do beleive that we fly tyers spend vast >> amounts >> >> of >> >> > money and time on finding the perfect fly. I >> >> beleive >> >> > that we could all do with with much less. Jim >> >> Teeny ( >> >> > the Teeny Fly ) fishes only his original fly. I >> >> > beleive he has gone to adding many colors but >> >> still >> >> > that simple nymph. And he catches lots of fish. >> >> > >> >> > Maybe the original mouse trap has been figured >> >> > out--and only slightly improved? >> >> > >> >> > However, isn't it fun to keep trying to find >> that >> >> > PERFECT fly ! >> >> > >> >> > geo--I'll keep trying. >> >> > >> >> > --- Tom Davenport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> In the spring I was reading an article in >> >> Northwest >> >> >> fly fishing >> >> >> written by a fellow who fishes Montana rivers >> >> with >> >> >> streamers, >> >> >> primarily with what he called a "big ugly >> spark >> >> plug >> >> >> of a Wooly >> >> >> Bugger". He had a name for it, and if I find >> the >> >> >> article again, I >> >> >> will send his name and the real name of his >> >> bugger, >> >> >> which I simply >> >> >> call the "Back to Basics" bugger. >> >> >> >> >> >> In recent years I have been like the prodigal >> >> son, >> >> >> "seeking wanton >> >> >> women" when it comes to wooly buggers. I had >> >> >> abandoned hackle all >> >> >> together and substituted Mohair or Ice Dub or >> >> >> brushed Antron or ice >> >> >> chenille, or all three. I have added beads, >> and >> >> >> propellers (and I >> >> >> have also also spent time with a particularly >> hot >> >> >> number called the >> >> >> "Chili Pepper.") >> >> >> >> >> >> So along comes this article with this guy >> saying >> >> he >> >> >> only uses this >> >> >> one fly, and he catches lots of fish. It was >> >> >> nothing more than a >> >> >> simple, traditional bugger, black marabou >> tail, >> >> >> brown chenille body, >> >> >> copper rib, with palmered Cree or Grizzly >> hackle. >> >> >> That's it. No >> >> >> bead, no propeller, no ice dub, no crystal >> >> chenille >> >> >> body, no crystal >> >> >> flash in the tail, nothing! >> >> >> >> >> >> So I tied some up for still water fishing >> using >> >> it >> >> >> as my trailing fly >> >> >> with one of my gaudy "whores of Babylon" >> buggers >> >> >> in the lead... >> >> >> and ... you guessed it... that plain old >> bugger >> >> has >> >> >> out fished the >> >> >> others 10 to one.... including... the >> venerable >> >> >> Chili (sorry Tony. It >> >> >> is probably just our local planted fish. They >> >> settle >> >> >> for hamburger >> >> >> when they could be having the T-bone) >> >> >> >> >> >> I just tied up another dozen for tomorrows >> >> fishing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is the recipe >> >> >> >> >> >> Hook: Streamer >> >> >> Weight: lead weight (if desired, I add weight >> to >> >> >> mine) >> >> >> Thread: Black, or Chili Pepper Orange (Not in >> >> his >> >> >> recipe, but I just >> >> >> can't resist adding Tony's snazzy orange >> collar) >> >> >> Tail: Black Marabou >> >> >> Body: Brown or Tobacco Brown chenille (In the >> >> >> article there was just >> >> >> a picture and a recipe, the recipe said brown, >> >> but >> >> >> it looked tobacco >> >> >> brown to me, so that is what I have been >> using) >> >> >> Rib: Copper Wire >> >> >> Hackle: Cree or Grizzly >> >> >> >> >> >> I like to get everything tied in at the bend >> >> except >> >> >> the hackle, then >> >> >> I wrap the body forward and tie off, attach >> the >> > === message truncated === > > > > George C. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Always do right; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest." > > Mark Twain > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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