A very interesting suggestion.
Maybe what we can do together with MPEG is to initiate such a discussion. In
fact, the recent video codecs from MPEG such as AVC and HEVC are all coming
from the collaboration with ITU SG 16.
If IETF is willing to talk with MPEG on such a matter, it would be also nice
let them know.
Euee
-----Original Message-----
From: Monty Montgomery [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 9:47 PM
To: Euee S. Jang
Cc: Timothy B. Terriberry; Alissa Cooper; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [video-codec] LS from ITU-T SG 16
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Euee S. Jang <[email protected]> wrote:
> The licensing issue has been one of the major driving forces in MPEG. And
> this is why it is so hard to make one which is royally free.
> Still, I wanted to mention that there are people/industry who would like to
> make Type-1 (royalty-free) MPEG standards.
There are! And I absolutely do not want to dismiss them. There has been strong
royalty-free sentiment at the MPEG from the outset (I believe starting with Leo
Chiariglione himself).
*They should come join us.*
Despite a strong and consistent RF movement, MPEG continues to turn out
increasingly encumbered formats even for efforts which ostensibly intended to
deliver a minimum of a royalty-free baseline. That suggests there is a
structural problem with MPEG itself (but that's a different discussion).
So, I would encourage those people within MPEG who want to see a royalty free
standard to come join us at the IETF. IETF has an established history of
royalty free work (even if it's relatively new at codecs). The individuals of
the IETF have already succeeded at RF many times. More often than not, it's
the default assumption (after all, licensing seriously gums up ubiquitous
adoption). And again, I would argue that's due to structural and incentive
differences.
> After all, those who are in MPEG Type-1 are not *they*, but may well be *we*
> that should work together.
Yes! Nor do I think anyone here would suggest that the MPEG does not turn out
top notch work. However, I can't use any of it. And for that reason, I've
chosen an environment most likely to maximize my personal success. It is not
within the structure of the MPEG. I do not think that if my group and I chose
to join an MPEG effort, we would overcome the structural biases against RF.
Monty
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