I will have to think about this one some more, but here are my first
thoughts. My first thought is I can see things 3-12 months down the
road, I am not an visionary, I am an idea man. So as you said, I
recognized the fact in the group that there is a virtual fence that
everyone is on, in regards to the maturity of Vlogging. I have a
MBA, so one thing that I learned is that every successful business
has to mature, grow, expand, or die. The difference between
business and VLogging is the pure potential of VLogging. A mom and
pop has the luxury of being able to limit their growth, based on
their comfort scale and ability to put forth their maximum effort.
VLogging does not have this luxury, like other technologies, ideas,
revolutions, over the past few years and decades. VLogging has a
potential to grow exponentially very quickly and this is what is
going to create the growing pain in th community.
I think there will be a battle between purist and visionaries, much
like there is a battle between old schoolers and corporate staff,
when a mom and pop gets bought out by Acme Corporation. Mom and Pop
realize that their is a valid reason to sell to Acme, because they
did not do it for just the reason of money. Most of the time it is
because they need to grow and they understand that for whatever
reason they cannot get the business where it needs to be.
So the purist, you know the one, he sits in the breakroom
complaining all day of how thing are constantly changing and his job
is now different(not harder, just different). Never realizing that
if mom and pop didn't sell, then they were not going to be able to
maintian their growth and the business eventually would end up
closing down.
This is my first input on the 3rd test, so sorry if I am rambling,
Troy
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well! Okay Troy, you passed the first test, which was that you
read the list
> rather than just leaving your request for help populating your
site /
> moderators, dusting off your hands and walking away.
>
> And the second test, you replied to our skepticism / cynicism with
humor.
>
> The third test: what you do for the community before the community
bends
> over backwards for you. I whistle background music by request. Can
you
> whistle? Seriously, what skills/knowledge do you have that might
be of
> benefit to us? Are you a skilled businessman? We could learn
something about
> business from you. Maybe you could think of ways to generate
income from
> extant directories that folks here have worked their bums off to
create.
>
> I'm sorry, dude, but you arrived at a moment when all of us are
hyperaware
> that folks like you will be coming out of the woodwork in droves,
enter our
> community and spam us. It doesn't matter how you presented
your "offer" -
> the timing was "bad" for it arrived in the midst of a discussion
about how
> the days of innocence in the vlogosphere are over.
>
> Jan
>
> --
> "It isn't done alone. Pay more."
> http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
> http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
> http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com
> http://the-hold.blogspot.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "troylemaire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <videoblogging@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:36 AM
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: VLog Directory, Topsite, and Forum
>
>
> > Sull,
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. Coming from you this is a big vote of
> > confidence.
> >
> > Troy
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> ok. relax. you wont be booted.
> >> now people know your site exists... if they want to add thier
> > vlogs, they
> >> will.
> >>
> >> you will be one of hundreds of new directories that will surface
> > in the
> >> coming months mostly from people looking for new ad revenue.
> >>
> >> alright, carry on.
> >>
> >> sull
> >>
> >> On 8/5/05, troylemaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ok, I will admit that this is a spam by definition, but I
would
> > like
> >> > to defend my actions. I didn't boast, brag, or pretend to be
some
> >> > random user. I have been following this group and I am
sincerely
> >> > interested in VLogging. This week I got confirmation that I
am on
> >> > the VLogIt Beta testing list and fully intend to VLog the
> > creation
> >> > of the directory and apparently I will have to include this
> > event.
> >> >
> >> > I tried to present my information in the most not "used car
> >> > salesman" way I could. If you look I use my real name, you can
> > even
> >> > look me up on the internet to find me. Even though I had
listings
> >> > for my commercial site I told you upfront that I was using it
for
> >> > Beta testing and I have since removed any links to my
commercial
> >> > site so as to stay away from any controversy. I honestly
didn't
> > try
> >> > to drive any traffic to my commercial site, I just had to wait
> > for
> >> > some people to add their sites, as I didn't want to add them
> > myself.
> >> >
> >> > So while the site is not finished, as can be seen by Raymond's
> >> > review, I have been working on it for the past couple weeks
and I
> >> > decided to release what I have so that people can start adding
> > their
> >> > sites.
> >> >
> >> > After saying all of this, I ask that you give me another
chance
> >> > before booting me off of this group.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Troy LeMaire
> >> > "where is that begging on my knees avatar?"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Yes, folks leave a note with their request to join and if
they
> >> > say
> >> > > something sane, I'm supposing Jay lets 'em in.
> >> > >
> >> > > Do we nuke him or give him a chance to defend himself.
> >> > >
> >> > > Troy? Troy?
> >> > >
> >> > > Jan
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > "It isn't done alone"
> >> > > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
> >> > > http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
> >> > > .
> >> > > On Aug 5, 2005, at 7:11 PM, uwriteto wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On 8/5/05, R. Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > >> I took a look at this new vlog resource, and here is a 4-
> > minute
> >> > > >> screencast documenting the features:
> >> > > >> http://dltq.org/media/vloglistdotcomreview.html
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I hope it is useful.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks for the tour and commentary Raymond. Saved me the
> > trouble
> >> > from
> >> > > > having to go to the site and develop my own opinions... :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This is the third vlog spam I've seen on the list lately.
Is
> >> > someone
> >> > > > still validating people before they join?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --Yves
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> sull
> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >> "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and
> > revelation
> >> from which new form is born"
> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >> http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory
> >> http://interdigitate.com - on again off again vlog
> >
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> >
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