On 10/11/05, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some of us believe in user-centered design.
 
As do I.  My point was that we dont get to say "users perfer this because I do".  I'm using a new window for my videos because my experience with USERS is that that is what they prefer.  I have a small audience - maybe its just them, but my only point was that you may hate pop-ups you may love them but the all the other users out there are a different thing.

If you think you have any control over what the user can
do to transform the HTML you create before they see it, you are
completely wrong.
 
I dont recall saying I could. But I can define the default experience that is DavidMeade.com.  Using the mark up languages DEFINED to do just that.
 
All we as publishers can do is provide what our feedback is telling us is the most intuitive design for a feature.  On my site, thats using a pop-up for the media player.  HTML/CSS/JS/DHTML are designed to give publishers the mark up tools to do that.  They exist to let publishers do that.
 
If users want to override that ... fine what do I care?

> The web is meant to easily interconnect sets of
> data and let the user decide how to travese it ...

And let the user decide how to view it, and use it...
 
Use it yes. View it ... I still disagree.  XML/RSS do that - thats raw data.  HTML etc is MARK UP language ... its very use MARKS UP data to be displayed in a certain way (bullet lists, bolds, etc).
 
There are certainly tools and user options and programs which can override that, but web site designers dont provide pure data ... they MARK IT UP.
 
> but it's also meant to
> allow content publishers to easily make that data available in a manner *they
> the publisher* choose.

Go ahead. Just know that you have no control over how it can be
transformed or displayed. I've been telling print designers this for
almost 10 years now.
 
I wouldnt dream of trying to prevent it from being TRANSFORMED.  But I CAN mark it up as I the publisher chose...I'm the one writing the marked up page.
 
I actually dont care how they display it, thats why I allow my content to be retrieved as pure data in xml.
 
- Dave
http://www.davidmeade.com

 


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