Josh Leo writes: "Maybe I just want to be part of something "official" maybe it is my own selfish desire for elitism. Maybe it is a stupid idea that is useless to who and what we are as a group of people"
 
I'll venture that this is the reaction of a "big fish in a little pond" realizing that the "big pond" doesn't respect or recognize him.  I say that not as a criticism but as an observation.
 
We all live in our own little worlds.  The vlogosphere is a tiny world at this moment.  Josh Leo has achieved something like celebrity status (rightly) by producing an amazing body of work that has made him one of the most consistently watched vloggers on the Internet.
 
Hubris is a fatal flaw.  When the local homecoming queen enters the Miss America pageant, he/she suddenly realizes that the entire world is not at his/her feet.  The "star" from Small-town, USA, suddenly realizes she/he faces real competition from hundreds/thousands of other "big-fish-in-small-ponds".
 
We are all "big fish" in a tiny pond.  In the future, we will have to prove our mettle.  We will have to demonstrate that we are as good as (or better than) recognized "authorities".
 
One of the first tests is to recognize one's true status.  ALL vloggers are outsiders, people (as Dick Cavett said to me) with "silly little cameras".
 
Well, cameras cease to be silly when they produce material superior to that of the professionals.
 
Josh Leo, and indirectly all-of-us, receive a "reality sandwich" from this kind of treatment by the recognized media.
 
The right reaction is not to attack "them".  Nor, do we want to join "them".
 
The right way to proceed is to continue producing better material than "them".  At some point, it will become obvious that some vloggers do a better job of covering issues than traditional media outlets do.
 
You have to toil in the trenches to slowly gain the skills that enable you to climb the mountain and conquer it. The race is on!
 
Randolfe (Randy) Wicker
 
Videographer, Writer, Activist
Advisor: The Immortality Institute
Hoboken, NJ
http://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/
201-656-3280
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Leo
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: NPPF

I guess my reaction to the experience today dealt with all these people wearing name tags that said things like "CNN NY" "WZZM" "WOOD" etc....My name tag said Calvin College. I talked to people and they knew I was a student so they treated like I was a little putz, who was wide eyed and amazed with their profession (like the other 4 students there" I wasn't there to kiss these people's boots to get a job. I have a job as a form of journalist (radio programs) and I am part of the media revolution that one of the CNN guys said was the future of what they are doing. His words were "yeah someday it is going to all be one guy with a laptop in his backpack, a small DV-cam making the whole story and beaming it to the networks, news is goign to be way mroe personalized, people are going to choose what they want" I smiled and thought to myself "haha that is me in a nutshell minus the network" I had no way for them to understand that I was part of something, part of a movement, a movement of philosphers, techies, video professionals, artists, movers, shakers, media makers! I said was a video blogger and they didn't get it... I guess it is just a matter of time before the media and the rest of the world realizes what we are and the power we wield. The reason I threw the idea of an organization was perhaps to work within the traditional structure until the public catches up in understanding. Imagine going to a "news event"and being asked "what are your credentials? who are you with?" and then you just say "I am part of the NAVB"

But as others have pointed out, there is so much drama, complications, and pain in the ass stuff that may not serve the community for it to be worth it. Maybe I just want to be part of something "official" maybe it is my own selfish desire for elitism. Maybe it is a stupid idea that is useless to who and what we are as a group of people... Either way, I feel the power of vlogging, I wish they did too.

On 12/3/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Take it easy on the other in-group. They work hard - together - and
> there's a huge bond between them for their shared experience of it.
> Just as our vlog-bond is strong for our shared experiences.
>
> As in the vlogosphere (or any sphere of consequence), you have to earn
> a bit of respect before people will greet you with the open welcome
> we've come to enjoy here.
>
> There's no doubt but that we can and will as a group earn that respect
> with other mediamakers. Just a matter of time and shared experience.
>
> XOXOX,
> Jan
>
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I agree that we will get respect.  And I don't think creating an
association is the best way to do that.  An association will gain some
headway in the traditional media and political areas.  But I think in
the long run it will become like all associations, a point of status
and control.  I see the correct representation is from the technology
this emerges from -- the internet; loosely coupled connections that
self organize based on goals and needs.  This is the future, political
assocations is 19th century thinking.

  -- Enric
  http://www.cirne.com
  Determine the Media

> On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Michael I wrote:
>
> > Â
> > haha, How do you know of Suzanne Geha!!!? yeah i was
surpirsed...there
> > were people from every GR news station, people from south bend,
> > toronto, and one guy from CNN from NYC...nice crowd of knowledgeable
> > (yet stuck up) people...
> >
> >  Oh, I am Detroit born and bred.
> >
> >  Â You gotta remember we have a unqiue talent here...vlogging. I bet
> > only two or three people at a news station know how to use a computer
> > beyond checking their email, hahaha.
> >
> >  Yeah, plastic people are everywhere, mainly on air... and yeah many
> > forms of the entertainment field require "thickskin" it won't take
> > long....hang out long enough you'll grow it.
> >
> >  Aloha,
> > Â idvfilms.blogspot.com
> > idvfilms.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/3/05, Michael I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Now when you mean fake do you mean "staged" or or you refering to
> >>> the formula? These are real people telling real peoples stories and
> >>> emotions, when you are part of a community you as a viewer wants to
> >>> know how it will affect you. Watch entertainment tonight...now
> >>> that's fake.
> >> By fake I mean...that the reporters act fake...fake emotion, fake
> >> interest, fake persona...but the stories and the real people are
what
> >> I think is best...that is REAL
> >>
> >>> It's only a matter of time before all this melds, with this in mind
> >>> you might find yourself teaching Suzanne Geha how to Vlog!  If I
> >>> remember right our own Steve Garfield was a one time reporter?
> >>>
> >> haha, How do you know of Suzanne Geha!!!? yeah i was
> >> surpirsed...there were people from every GR news station, people
from
> >> south bend, toronto, and one guy from CNN from NYC...nice crowd of
> >> knowledgeable (yet stuck up) people...
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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