eh, I mean, how strong Mr Hyde can be. . .classic. On Dec 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, andrew michael baron wrote:
> If you are suggesting that this was a ploy to promote his Xmas album > (which would be gross, but even if you are not suggesting this), this > fiasco came at the expense of learning himself that he was not the > first to invent any technological processes. > > This is not to undermine other great things that he has done, but > kind of shows a bit of a Dr. Jekkel and Mr. Hyde side to things. Its > perfectly natural for any human to have a strong Ego, but its always > interesting to see how strong Dr. Jekkel can be when Mr. Hyde is > "known" for being so giving. > > > > On Dec 4, 2005, at 1:57 AM, Eric Rice wrote: > >> It's speculation and rumor and whatever disclaiming words I can >> bring up, that this article >> was a PR ploy and that the author got played. >> >> I'm just saying, there's words on the street. >> >> ER >> >> >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, B Yen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2005, at 10:04 PM, Richard Bennett-Forrest wrote: >>> >>>> I love all this nitpicking. You'd think they'd invented something >>>> important to mankind, like the long lasting lightbulb, or a >>>> solution >>>> for world hunger, the way they go on and on about it. Winer's been >>>> bitching about this since mid-2004 already, and it couldn't have >>>> happened between two bigger egos in my opinion. >>>> >>>> Curry was a failed VJ, trying to reignite whatever it was he had in >>>> the 80s, through trying to do a radio show on the Internet. Big >>>> Deal. >>>> His "podcast" was super boring. Booorriiing. But he got lucky, and >>>> should just understand that. >>>> >>>> And although Winer's generally a pain in the arse to read and >>>> listen >>>> to, he has been doing RSS type stuff for over a decade, yet not >>>> really tried to push it forward for anything beyond one way pushing >>>> of lossy text and audio. Why he's bothered about not being called >>>> "the father of podcasting" is beyond me, as there's much more >>>> significant things to be the father of over the next ten years, and >>>> podcasting won't be one of them IMNSHO. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Richard >>> >>> >>> I think it's (tit-for-tat) related to a squabble between Curry & >>> podcasters: >>> >>> Curry in Podcast Convention Clash >>> 04:21 PM Nov. 08, 2005 PT >>> >>> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,69513,00.html >>> >>> The Portable Media Expo kicks off Friday in Ontario, California, >>> with >>> all the earmarks of success. But the proceedings could see some >>> last- >>> minute competition from one of the biggest names in the fast-growing >>> podcasting business: former MTV VJ Adam Curry. >>> >>> Some 2,500 attendees and 50 exhibitors from 38 states and 22 nations >>> are expected to turn out for the event, which organizers are billing >>> as the world's first podcasting convention. >>> >>> Although Curry plans to attend the show, he has declined to speak at >>> it or sponsor it. And now he is threatening to hold an impromptu >>> "un- >>> expo" at a nearby hotel, where podcasters may be invited to discuss >>> potential promotional deals with his company, PodShow.com, Curry >>> spokesman Aaron Burcell told Wired News on Tuesday. >>> >>> "They've been trying to back us into a huge sponsorship by saying >>> we're not supportive of the expo, that we're this and that," Burcell >>> said. "But we have a lot of podcasters who are part of the Portable >>> Media Expo and we've been very supportive. It's not wise to try to >>> extort the company that's been most supportive of the podcasting >>> community." >>> >>> Burcell accused convention organizer Tim Bourquin of retaliating >>> against Curry for refusing to sponsor the trade show or to speak at >>> it. He also alleged that Bourquin had been bad-mouthing Curry and >>> his >>> company to podcasters who belong to a PodShow stable of talent known >>> as the Pod Squad. >>> >>> Bourquin flatly denied he's contacted any of PodShow's talent but >>> acknowledged he questioned on the most recent episode of his Podcast >>> Brothers show why PodShow hadn't sponsored the program and why Curry >>> had declined to address the event. Bourquin said PodShow had >>> demanded >>> a free high-level sponsorship in exchange for some help with >>> promotion and a speech by former MTV veejay and self-anointed >>> "PodFather" Curry, but Bourquin said he rejected that offer because >>> his event has become so popular he no longer felt he needed Curry as >>> a headliner. >>> >>> "They're upset that I'm not bowing down to them," Bourquin said. >>> "Everyone who gets a call from Adam and PodShow is impressed and >>> feels important. I don't fall all over these guys when they call me. >>> I gave them several opportunities to be involved and they repeatedly >>> turned me down." >>> >>> Burcell said Curry is for now scheduled to attend the event, if not >>> address it, and PodShow is organizing a pre-convention event on >>> Thursday showcasing musicians who allow podcasters to use their >>> recordings for no charge. He added that the company was >>> interested in >>> buying the title sponsorship for the show, but was beaten to the >>> punch when Audible.com sewed up a deal months ago for $35,000. >>> >>> For Bourquin, the hullabaloo amounts to an unneeded distraction in >>> the waning days before a trade show that has grown beyond anyone's >>> expectations. When he conjured up the notion of a trade show >>> focusing >>> on portable media a year ago, the word "podcast" was hardly even >>> part >>> of a techie's lexicon and the notion of a video iPod was a glint in >>> Steve Jobs' eye. >>> >>> Even six months ago, Bourquin looked ahead at his Portable Media >>> Expo >>> with a mixture of excitement and anxiety, hoping merely to meet his >>> initial goal of 1,000 registrants. He's more than doubled that goal >>> in a show that is drawing executives from Yahoo, Whirlpool and >>> Disney >>> as well as a list of new startup companies primed to make a >>> litany of >>> product announcements. A healthy roster of keynote speakers from >>> NPR's Robert Spier to This Week in Tech podcaster Leo Laporte are >>> also on tap. >>> >>> "This has certainly grown beyond our expectations," said Bourquin, >>> who, along with his brother Emile Bourquin, co-hosts the Podcast >>> Brothers podcast, a show that offers advice on how to promote and >>> monetize podcasts. "It just shows what's been happening in this >>> business." >>> >>> Tradeshow Week associate publisher Michael Hughes, whose trade >>> publication tracks the conference business, declared the expo off to >>> a "very good start" with more than 2,000 attendees. Hughes noted the >>> average trade show size attracts 4,000 registrants. >>> >>> "It's a challenge to launch a new trade show because most sectors >>> are >>> already covered," Hughes says. "You really only see this in new >>> emerging industries. It's one of the first steps of a new industry's >>> maturity." >>> >>> Hughes said feuds among rival factions of a new industry are common >>> and usually take a few years to shake out. Few attendees seem >>> concerned by the schism between Bourquin and Curry. >>> >>> "I'm just sitting here smiling (because Curry partner) Ron Bloom and >>> Adam are the masters of generating publicity," said voice talent >>> David Lawrence of The David Lawrence Show , who plans to roll out a >>> service he'll offer to help local real estate agents create podcasts >>> to sell houses. "How does this not amp up by 10-fold the >>> attention to >>> them, having an alternative site across the street and all that? >>> They've already locked up many of the most-listened to podcasts and >>> are the big dogs on the block. I don't know if this is real or >>> manufactured, but it makes it all that much more interesting." >>> >>> The main event looks to be a mix of serious business and >>> socializing. >>> Denver-based podcaster Paul Saurini of Barefoot Radio, for instance, >>> is excited to meet colleagues after toiling for months on his own on >>> his show, but he's also on the prowl for sponsors for his weekly >>> comedy and music program that attracts more than 6,000 downloads per >>> episode. >>> >>> Saurini could be in luck. Several companies, including PodShow and >>> Podtrac, will be looking to help connect talent with advertisers. >>> Podtrac, in fact, rushed to get its system, which will be announced >>> this weekend, finished in time for the conference. >>> >>> Predictably, several podcasters will be recording their shows at the >>> conference. In fact, Podcast Pickle directory owner Gary Leland has >>> signed up 18 podcasters to do 20-minute versions of their show live >>> at his booth, to be made available on Leland's site in one-hour >>> blocks throughout the day. >>> >>> And for many, the event is likely to feel like a mammoth meetup >>> where >>> this first generation of podcasters will actually put faces to >>> voices >>> and screen names. Dinners, poker games and even some romantic dates >>> have been furiously arranged in recent weeks on message boards and >>> via e-mail. >>> >>> "This is the place we get to meet everybody you've heard and talked >>> to," said podCast411 host Robert Walch of Overland Park, Kansas, who >>> said he walked away from a six-figure income earlier this year to >>> focus on growing his podcast consulting business. "This is going to >>> be the Woodstock of podcasting." >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------ Yahoo! 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