Just remember not to look at SMIL as a replacement to other methods of delivery.
SMIL is very powerful and am glad it is starting to get more attention these days...
So many years it was just ignored and dusty but now with all this Internet Media booming around... it has refreshed interest.  Maybe more software apps will properly support SMIL 2.0 soon.

As mentioned, I chose to use SMIL to handle videoblog playlists on vlogdir.com
I like that I can take all the video enclosures from an RSS feed and convert to SMIL and make the embedded Quicktime player link each video to the permalinks.  If you have a SMIL playlist loaded and are watching videos, you can just click the video currently playing and a new browser window will open the permalink. 

I've also done some experimental stuff with syncing random music with random videos using SMIL.  In fact, if you use videobloggers.org, you could setup a media album and upload videos and mp3s... and the music will be used as the soundtrack while the videos play.
Vimeo originally was tinkering with such things when it first was introduced... But Jacob abandoned that experimental stuff for more standard features.

SMIL (in particular QT SMIL)  is not perfect, but it is definately useful and great for experimental works.

sull

On 12/13/05, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/13/05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dial-up users have far bigger problems than SMIL in this regard. 4MB/min
> compression and dial-up just don't match. It doesn't matter if local
> playback is better if it takes 40 minutes to download the video. Contrary
> to the belief of nerds everywhere dial-up users don't leave their computer
> online all day and night to download video (or porn).

True but they are used to and do suffer long downloads often.  Its
entirely possible that they'll sacrifice the phone line while they are
off watching TV for an hour or two if it means they can come back to
the newest episode of their favorite videoblog(s).

Asking them to do this once through the convience of an aggregator
that will download the thing and store for future playback is
different than asking them to download a tiny lil file so that they
can try to download that massive movie file each and every time they
click play.

(And there are a good many people that even have a seperate phone line
for this and do leave that 2nd line up and connected for large
portions of the day (its not cost of DSL but availability that traps
alot of poeple, and they're willing to pay for a 2nd line) ... great
for download/preload but not so great for live/fast-start.)

> Personally I make video for the web, not for some on-demand tv device.

Well that is my primary desire/goal ... but I dont believe having a
sync-able video makes the video designed for on-demand devices ...
it's just something else it can do.  I mean I'm all about
web-interactivity and *I* have a video iPod.  I go back and comment on
stuff all the time, but I like having a few vlogs on the ipod for
airport layovers or to show friends and what not.  I dont think
offering a portable version of the media for any of my viewers who
(like me) like to sync up to the iPod changes what I'm doing or
intended audiance / features ... it's just offering an additional
feature should someone want to take advantage.

But I hear what you're saying:  If I avoid SMIL solely for the sake of
iPods, then I sacrifice those features and make production choices for
the sake of the offline iPod rather than a website / vlog.  But at the
moment, I've avoiding SMIL for other reasons :-P.

> If you don't mind taking the time to create the files using eZedia then do that
> - I would too. Native Quicktime files are more robust than the SMIL counterparts

Yeah I think that's what I'm going to do. eZedia is pretty cool and
takes me all of 5 seconds to edit the link URL, export frame, and
paste to end of vlog before I upload a new vid.

... but I'm gonna have to find some cool SMIL project to play around
with all the same ... it is pretty cool, lookin.  :-)

- Dave

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