This is slightly unrelated, but:

Kinberg made the Google Video and Youtube greasemonkey scripts:
http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/google_video_getter.user.js
http://www.joshkinberg.com/blog/files/youtube_to_me.user.js

And Andreas made this for Sciencentral News (by request):
http://www.solitude.dk/stuff/sciencentral_video_getter.user.js

I want a script like these that runs on every site I visit.

Maybe it scrubs the page for all the .mov, .wmv, and .mp4 files and presents a list of links to them?

Possible?

I'll start taking up a collection if somebody's willing to build it.


On 2/15/06, Michael Meiser < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:
> I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV.
> No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...
>
> Peter

http://nbcolympics.com

This just pisses me off.. it's utter crap. Complete and utter CRAP. I 
don't know why it was even pointed out... it's the same damn crap 
you'd find on any major news site.

Normally I would just ignore such B.S. but what the hell today I feel 
like bitching. You've been forewarned. You might say I'm bitching 
because this needs to be said... because I'm doing under the heading 
"NBC Olympic Blog Is Awesome" when clearly it is anything but. I mean 
to slay it, and I don't intend to play nice or fair. Again, you've 
been forewarned.

Disclaimer: my general discussed are in no way shaped at any 
individual here, they are in fact aimed at the loathsome entity that 
is NBC, established media at large, and those that would propagate 
such travesties on humanity as this video interface. aka. please 
don't take this personally.

This site (nbcolympics.com) and it's "video interface" are full of 
needless and endless hoops which as usual make it needlessly 
inaccessible and all but unusable... and don't tell me it's not. 
People who don't get accessibility always say... "I can watch a video 
on it"... yeah, maybe you can even watch two or three... given 30 
minutes and a whole lot of frustration... but the experience is 
needlessly for shit.

I always respond to such people... "yeah you should check out that on 
video of (insert celebrity name here)... yeah, it's really awesome..  
you've got to see it... go ahead... it's there on the website... 
don't mind me... I've got all the time in the world... just let me 
know when you've checked it out and i'll be happy to discuss how much 
said website rocks."

One of the many reasons why I LOVE videoblogging, blogging and 
podcastings is I like to think one of the things that it does is 
changes the expectation of what media is, how it should be consumed 
and who should have access to it in a very deep and profound way... 
that there is a better way.

Over time people will come to understand how shitty such websites as 
this NBC olympic website are and start to go elsewhere.... an 
elsewhere besides the P2P networks... which btw, do have extensive 
video coverage of the olympics... but I'd like to see such media on 
the open web where it belongs... where it can benefit society at 
large instead of just an elite few.

So, yeah, not only is it a pain in the ass to watch videos in NBC's 
crappy interface, but you cannot reference a video and therefore not 
send a url to your friends or discuss a video. It's a for shit 
interface.

When I see crap like this, as mentioned, most of the time I ignore 
it. But every once in a while I'm incited to take action..  to hack 
it apart and put it back together so people can actually USE the 
content... or perhaps just to bitch about it in the hopes that people 
will start to get what accessibility is really all about. ;)

Case in point.

Have any of you ever thought about just scrapping such a website's 
data and recompiling it into a vlog format with RSS feeds and 
comments? Which is to say, turning it back into a real live vlog, 
with actual comments and permalinks so people can enjoy it and talk 
about it and reference it?

I'm not sure this can be done with this NBC website... while someone 
said it was in Quicktime I don't see any QT videos... just all 
streaming windows media crap. There's to much material I think for 
one person to do it alone... but I think it'd be tremendously 
popular.... and in a media-hacker kind of way really give them a big 
positive slap in the face... like the bot that hacks your system only 
to apply security patches... sort of like "heh! idiots! clue in! 
here's a tremendous amount of traffic and attention... please take it 
and learn something from it."

Of course they could and probably would threaten legal action, 
because how dare someone hot link to their videos or talk about 
them... Indeed the olympic committee has a tremendous history of 
suing anyone who mentions them... trademark and copyright law gone 
completely foul of it's intended purpose in the marketplace... beyond 
simply protecting such entities from malicious harm... to the point 
of suppressing free speech.

But there's nothing the olympic committee can sue about as long as 
you say "unofficial" clearly in the title... because enclosing a 
video is no less legal than linking directly to a video... and 
quoting short descriptive captions about the videos is perfectly 
legal too. These things are the very foundation of the blogging 
world, basic re-blogging in fact. I repeat, the foundations of 
blogging. Anyone trying to suppress such basic freedoms would stir a 
hornets nest of controversy.

See Streisand effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_Effect


Anyway, this is my idea of media hacking...

...bringing media rich culture back out onto the open web kicking and 
screaming... where it should be in the first place... for the benefit 
of all.

But, I just don't have the time to go fuscking around with messed up 
organizations like NBC or the olympic comity for their benefit and no 
profit of my own... I'm to busy to keep up with the olympics let 
alone compile all their videos into a tried and true video blog 
format... TRUE this would save thousands of people COUNTLESS time, 
create bountiful and endless publicity and enjoyment... get the NBC 
olympic website endless exposure... but I just don't have the time to 
spend bitch slapping clueless web sites... If any of you do, let me 
know, I have all the skilz and offer my contributions, I just cannot 
afford to run the show. BTW, pardon the language, but I warned you :)

Anyway, this reminds me of two things... 1) the sundance film 
festivals pathetic attempt at promoting their website by putting 
short films online and 2) the guys who during the very recent 
superbowl put every single superbowl ad online in mp4 and m4v format 
in a subscribe-able RSS format.... and that without anyone's 
permission at all.

First, To address sundance... Have any of you seen any really cool 
film shorts floating around online from the sundance film festival?  
No?  Well have you seen their site? No again? While perhaps that's 
because while every year they try to put out tremendous amounts of PR 
B.S. about 'sundance online' the clueless idiots BURY all the content 
in a completely inaccessible monstrous flash website... which makes 
it impossible to find or bookmark or watch or share any videos at all.

Year after year no buzz and no talk happens about their short 
films... except by clueless wonders that just regurgitate their PR 
hype no one sees them... no one talks about them. No one being of 
course a relative thing... But you compare this to the now standard 
movie trailer releases which over the years have become much more 
accessible (most commonly in downloadable quicktime formats) and you 
get the idea that sundance is missing out on 99.99% of potential word 
of mouth marketing. They are clueless as hell much to the detriment 
of not only themselves... but all those independent filmographers and 
would be masses of fans that just never materialize.

Second, the superbowl commercials...

http://www.devlib.org/blog/2006/01/30/2006-super-bowl-commercials/

Because of the guys at devlob.com I have like 40 or so superbowl 
commercials on my ipod and could watch them without all that 
distracting football in between. :) LOL.

All I had to do was pop an RSS feed into iTunes.  Total time spent by 
me 30 seconds to pop the feed into iTunes and 30-35 minutes to watch 
all the commercials.. that's it.  Amazing cultural insights and 
endless, enjoyment both about how good some are and how bad most 
are... all that a side this was a tremendous benefit to EVERYONE 
involved, so called "consumers" and advertisers a like, and yet I'm 
surprised these guys at devlib.org didn't get sued by either the 
advertisers, the NFL or other some such.

I just want to point out the irony here... It's a stupid advertising 
industry... where businesses will pay millions to have their message 
heard in 30-60second spots... while simultaneously suing people who 
would talk about, share it or discuss it for free.

This is the huge disconnect between the traditional advertising world 
and what's known as viral marketing. Viral marketers while not always 
well behaved get that buying eyeballs and airtime is now not the only 
way to get out your message... there's a new way... that way is 
ACCESSIBILITY... to craft a great message and put it out on the open 
web in a simple and accessible format and help your would be audience 
to find it and share it.

This is in fact the slow revolution in the movie industry... the slow 
shift from solely TV advertising to increasingly putting more and 
more movie trailers on line... longer, much longer... higher 
resolution... even multiple trailers and other promotional pieces, 
out-takes, bloopers... almost all of which are now downloadable and 
able to be "hot-linked" to from any web page. This is the future of 
advertising and media... this slow progression of accessibility.


Pushing the legal envelope... bending it not breaking it...

Anyway, I have no doubt that the olympic committee would try to use 
legal threats to stop anyone who put their videos into a vlog-able 
format... (if in fact their are any videos worth doing this with) 
after all they've sued many for even mentioning their name in the 
past... we're talking well beyond all sane trademark law... but you 
know what... fuck em... there's nothing illegal about what I'm 
talking about...

Unlike the guys who posted the superbowl commercials I'm not talking 
about redistributing content... just relinking all the content 
together in a vlog-able format. Simple reorganization for 
accessibility.. No redistribution involved.

No court is going to rule that you can't "hot link" to a video no 
matter what sort of ridiculous terms of service the NBC olympic 
website has. Even if NBC is to mount a legal assault  I think posting 
a cease and desist from such as NBC might in fact evoke the Streisand 
Effect (url cited above).

The point is... video blogging, podcasting and blogging are like the 
ebb of the ocean tide... the slow sands of time... we're not breaking 
laws like p2p darknets... we're functioning legally and applying 
constant pressure... bending and pushing and challenging the legal 
system already in place.... increasing pressure... changing 
expectations on a very grass roots and yet global scale.

We're slowly changing the expectation that media is for 
"professionals" and "spectators"... breaking down the so called 
"consumer culture" and turning the world into a much more human and 
participatory place. A "participatory culture" if you'd like to call 
it that.

You might say... we're now out in cyberspace beyond the surf... we're 
now beyond the crashing waves.. the .com hype... we're now into the 
tides, the tides of change... these changes are deep, deep water, and 
increasingly they're just going to keep coming, endlessly ebbing and 
progressing... they will not crash like the cheap surf of the .com 
boom... but these changes also won't be always as obvious as previous 
changes. Perhaps only in retrospect will we be able to see their 
tremendous impact on shaping the landscape in which we live.

Sometimes these changes are going to be so slow as to be 
imperceptible by all but the trained eye... and while sometimes 
they'll get hyped up in all "web 2.0" fashion... most times the truly 
profound changes will simply get misunderstood or missed all 
together, such as is my constant trying B.S. :)


All hail deviant media hacker behavior.

One of these days I'm going find the right deviant project like this 
and put my money where my mouth is... and push the issue to the 
edge...  the headlines would hopefully reflect the irony... "huge 
success... threatened by legal action".  One thing I notice is 
corporations love to sue the hand that feeds them... ahem.. RIAA. :P

BTW, as an example I colluded with Jon Udell in typical blog manner, 
which is to say, despite his knowing anything about it...  to crack 
open one of the "iTunes U" podcasts (aka. iTunes University podcasts) 
from Stanford and make it available on the open web instead of just 
the iTunes directory.

Accessible podcast: http://odeo.com/channel/59954/view

Now anyone can listen to it... almost.. except that it's still in m4a 
format instead of mp3... fucking Apple. But at least it now has 
permalinks, and you can comment, and click on and download on the 
media links... and reference it and blog about it. Hell, you can 
download it and transcode it to mp3 if you like. I'd recommend it.

And this is the how and why...
http://mmeiser.com/blog/2006/01/stanford-and-apples-itunes-taking.html


Liberating media......

If I had endless time I'd love to do nothing but go around the 
internet and "liberate" media from sucky misguided, needlessly 
inaccessible web interfaces. I just tend to have no tolerance for 
such backward thinking.  Perhaps we should declare the independence 
of the blogosphere / vlogosphere / podcast-o-sphere and annex it from 
the internet. Simply cut loose of all such bullshit. Have ourselves a 
little boston tea party of media and throw out all this sucky DRM, 
TPM and streaming media crap back into the depths of the cyberspace 
where it belongs.  Perhaps every vlog, every podcast, and every blog 
created are just that... a rejection of the tax on innovation, 
progress, and above all humanity by the powers that be in media and 
in politics.

We hold these truths to be self evident... that all media as it is 
representative of the voices of all people is created equal... that 
all media is endowed by the people with certain unalienable rights, 
that among these are the right to be quoted, discussed, referenced, 
to be known, studied and accessible by all and for the benefit of all 
people as is in accordance with it's central place as the language 
and the voices that shape our culture and the great debate.

Media is now and forever will be from this point forward if not 
already the very language of our culture and as such all are entitled 
to have access to it, not only as a means of literacy, but also as a 
means of _expression_. As the printing press was to mass literacy of 
the written and spoken language... so to will the internet be to mass 
literacy of the language of media.

We are all only so equal as our voices are equal and in so far as we 
use them.

This is clearly visible in open source, blogging, podcasting, and now 
video blogging. It's only through our active PARTICIPATION in all 
aspects of the great debate that we maintain equality. The moment we 
let ourselves be put on the couch is the moment we loose that 
control. The extent to which we participate... to the extent we 
create code, or podcast, vlog or otherwise speak our mind and do is 
to the extent that we maintain and preserve our power and the 
equality of our society and the world at large.

That... or of course you could go read Joe Trippi's book. I think he 
did a pretty good job of summing up the spirit of it... of course 
it's more than just politics, but just understanding what it means to 
politics is a start.

Peace,

-Mike

Michael Meiser
http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff
http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - del.icio.us link blog
http://evilvlog.com - Serious lunacy has a new domain.




On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter Van Dijck wrote:

I just see a list of videos that pop up in a window that embeds WMV.
No blog, no permalinks, no RSS...

Peter

On 2/13/06, David Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uhh...I dont see any vlogs. I see videos of the events but no vlogs.
>
> Could you give me a link to a vlog post there.
>
> David
> http://www.taoofdavid.com
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kunga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> You guys. NBC really is doing video blogging all over that website!!!
>> It's incredible and it's native QuickTime too. You can even save as
>> quicktime movies to your hard drive. Outstanding quality. 6-8 mb/
>> minute
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>> <http://nbcolympics.com>
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>> Taylor Barcroft
>> New Media Publisher, Editor, Video Journalist, Podcaster, 
>> Futurecaster
>> Santa Cruz CA, Beach of the Silicon Valley
>> URL http://FutureMedia.org
>> RSS http://feeds.feedburner.com/FutureMedia
>> iTunes http://tinyurl.com/8ql87
>> barcroft (gizmo)
>> kungax (Skype)
>> kungag5 (iChat-AIM)
>>
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>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Kunga wrote:
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>>> You turn on your television and tune into one of the NBC 
>>> broadcast or
>>> satellite television channels. It's very lifelike if your set is HD.
>>>
>>> But if you must use the internet it's here:
>>>
>>> <http://nbcolympics.com>
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