so, if a group has some developer/vlogger tpyes.... fun things can happen :)
On 2/19/06, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My interest would be, if viable, to test out applications like FFMPEG
(transcoding) running on the server. Loading applications would not
be available on a managed server and would cost more for a dedicated
server only for myself.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ah, clint
>
> quite obviously there is a third option: people who want it free, but
> without the trade off of poor availability/performance/etc
>
> the reason why this is needed so much is not necessarily because people
> are cheap, but because they want to see it work reliably the first time
> when they are starting out (for one thing)
>
> i think that this is really important for vlogging to take off:
> reliable, free access for beginners.
>
> plus i'm sure there are plenty of folks who can't or don't want to
> afford yet *another* $120 (kids come to mind for one)
>
> another point: the paid options often come with a fair amount of admin
> hassles for some people. they are not all turnkey and certainly not
all
> equal or easy to use for the average person.
>
> finally, it's not always the case that a paid service performs better
> than a free one (especially when the paid one gets popular).
>
> every hosting provider I ever had was great until they weren't ;)
>
> maybe it's just a question of *who* is paying for the service (i.e.,
not
> users)
>
> how do we increase archive reliability and performance?
>
> is it just a money issue?
>
> how do we make Bush pay for it? :p
>
>
>
> Clint Sharp wrote:
>
> > I'd be happy to dance. There are currently thousands of hosting
> > options from thousands of providers who make it their business to
> > maximize the amount of people you can fit onto one server. Those
> > people are not the people on this list. I suggest you check them out.
> >
> > Vlog hosting needs two things, servers and bandwidth. A "collective"
> > or a shared hosting resource of vloggers is never going to be able to
> > compete with people who's business it is to make a profit doing
this.
> > You are not going to be able to rent a server from anyone, delve
it up
> > between a bunch of high-bandwidth users and make it economically
> > feasible. The best option is to be in the hosting business, in which
> > you divide up hosting resources between high bandwidth users and
> > low-bandwidth users. Combining a group of unprofitable users is
> > unprofitable, no matter how you do the math. Much better to let the
> > companies whose business it is combine users who, while they may be
> > allocated hundreds of gigabytes a month of transfer, don't use it,
> > with users who do.
> >
> > There are two options in the vlog hosting world, and I don't see a
> > need for a third. There are people who want to host their vlogs for
> > free, and thus they make a tradeoff in terms of service, and there
are
> > those who are willing to pay. I'm all for free services, and I
> > happily recommend them to people who don't really care whether their
> > users can access their videos. There are also paid options, which
> > cost a mimimal amount a month (honestly, if you can't afford $120/yr,
> > you can't afford the camera and the computer to vlog either,
> > probably). I recommend the paid options to most people. Who
wants to
> > invest the time and effort to create a middle option when the second
> > option is already so cheap?
> >
> > Clint
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/18/06, *David Howell* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto: taoofdavid@...>> wrote:
> >
> > First off...*I* never asked a question. Learn reading skills.
> >
> > Second. My conversations take place in person where I can see a
> > persons eyes. I trust about 1% of what I read online.
> >
> > Last. I really dont care about being part of some vlog
collective. The
> > original concept was for some people to group funds together for a
> > server that would host videos.
> >
> > Care to dance a little more?
> >
> >
> > David
> > http://www.taoofdavid.com
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