and an RSS for latest videos?
I like how blip does this spreading of media. very cool! very important!
It is probably the best example to show that Blip is on your side.
They are not building walls... they are leveling the playing field... making your media 'very available' ;-)
btw, on the channel level... your vlog and feed address.... if added to vlogdir.com, then vlogdir pings google search engine so it helps you get discovered more easily (that plus the regular google/vlogdir ranking stuff).
so its important to use a servic elike blip that helps to spread your media and it helps to list your actual vlogs and feeds in directories that also spread them outward.
sull
On 4/3/06, mikehudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey guys,
I'm following this thread with a smile on my face, because a lot of
what you're talking about is what blip is all about. We actually
already submit your video to a bunch of different places (Yahoo Video
Search, Mefeedia, the Internet Archive, your own blog, Flickr,
del.icio.us) and we'd like to add more.
The only thing keeping us from cross-posting to, say, YouTube, is
license restrictions. We're not sure if we can get away with it from
a legal perspective.
That said, we've been looking into cross-posting to Google Video
pretty actively and I think we may move towards that in the next
couple weeks.
What other services would you like us to auto submit to?
Yours,
Mike
Co-founder, blip.tv
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "lishisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Verdi,
> Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a
> perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good
> targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times.
> Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video
> services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not
> want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where
> the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google
> video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and
> monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon.
>
> [> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are
> helping to
> > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film
> world -
> > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary
> thing
> > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute
> your own
> > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on
> TV or Film
> > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't
> have to put
> > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.]
>
> I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct
> difference between what you pointed out and the
> truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not
> giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just
> extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV
> may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a
> Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my
> content in these locations without much effort. Some services
> convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices
> on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your
> discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not
> infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours...
>
> I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure
> I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you
> so much for your thoughts...
>
> As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working
> on it... ;)
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <michael@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like
> YouTube
> > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of
> people looking
> > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2
> main
> > reasons why I'll never be interested in that.
> > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for
> example
> > all require you to license your video to them in such a way that
> they can
> > commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for
> hosting when
> > you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and
> Blip.tv without
> > giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative
> commons
> > licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating
> the terms of
> > their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or
> share alike
> > license).
> >
> > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are
> helping to
> > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film
> world -
> > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary
> thing
> > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute
> your own
> > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on
> TV or Film
> > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't
> have to put
> > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.
> >
> > Here are my "tips" for building an audience:
> > 1. Make great content.
> > 2. Make great content.
> > 3. Make great content.
> > 4. Put your great content in a blog and add descriptions and links
> relevant
> > to your great content.
> > 5. Make sure you have an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures so people can
> > subscribe to your great content.
> > 6. Make great content regularly (you don't have to do it everyday
> but don't
> > dissapear for months at a time).
> > 7. Interact with your audience via the comments on your videoblog.
> > 8. Watch and comment on stuff you like (they might like your stuff
> too).
> >
> > That's it for now. That should get you started.
> >
> > -Verdi
> >
> > On 4/3/06, lishisman <lishisman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings... Vlogweek very cool... Our New studio did not get
> > > finished over the weekend, and I am bummed, Such is life...
> > >
> > > Warning - I am not a good writer, when it comes to me putting
> > > something on paper, alot of time my thoughts get mangled, I am
> much
> > > better in person... I think way faster than I type, so I will
> try to
> > > convey and idea... discussing it here first before acting, and
> > > hoping that I can get some constructive, open minded, feedback
> from
> > > valued members here.
> > >
> > > I have an Idea...
> > >
> > > Trying to be a productive member and all, I would like to build
> or
> > > be part of a new website/program dedicated to video submission. I
> > > have *some* capital, resources and input, however I cannot do it
> > > alone.
> > >
> > > It is understood by me that there are already MANY services that
> one
> > > vlogger can upload a video to and get seen... however, people
> like
> > > me, who vlog daily could spend a great deal of time, just
> uploading
> > > to the many services out there...
> > >
> > > A service needs to be developed that you could upload your daily
> > > video to once, and the service would "broadcast" your video the
> > > other video services for which do not have RSS feeds, but force
> you
> > > to upload ... What really gets me about the current group of
> > > services for video distribution is that in order to gain the most
> > > exposure you need to set up no less than five different user
> > > accounts, and upload your video up to at least that many
> services,
> > > my videos are around 40 mb, can you imagine how long it would
> take
> > > me to upload to just 5 of them? Plus, compile, shoot, edit,
> create
> > > webpages, post in a blog, ping the feeds that arent in
> feedburner,
> > > and post to this board? It is just crazy...
> > >
> > > Here are some possible solutions...
> > >
> > > Choice one
> > > ALL video upload services allow for linking to source video that
> is
> > > already hosted somewhere. OR allow RSS linking to source vid.
> > >
> > > Pros-
> > > 1. It would be easier for people like me to have content listed
> in
> > > many services, quickly.
> > > 2. My daily video would only consume 30 mb of webspace TOTAL.
> > > 3. Video Services would have more content with less server
> overhead.
> > >
> > > Cons-
> > > 1. Video services would not have as much "exclusive" content.
> > > 2. Video Services would not be able to control the availability
> of a
> > > video or the bandwidth that each video's hosting could handle.
> > > 3. The abosolute tracking would be sketchy.
> > > 4. Those video services that currently CONVERT video formats for
> you
> > > would be very limited by not having the source file in hand. Like
> > > for Mobile phones, ipods, and such.
> > >
> > >
> > > Choice two
> > > Have a video broadcast service... this could be a web
> application,
> > > Or more intriging, it could be a windows application like googles
> > > video uploader.
> > > You upload to one place... when this happens it is concurrently
> > > uploaded to many other places...
> > >
> > > Pros-
> > > 1. Less work for the content provider
> > > 2. This could be a paid service... make money$$
> > > 3. Maximum exposure could be obtained with minimal effort
> > > 4. Video service would still have the source files.
> > > 5. Video services would likely become allies with such service
> for
> > > the content alone, and would likely allow a service to sign up
> new
> > > user accounts.
> > > 6. In the above scenario this service would become a one stop
> shop
> > > for new vloggers..."Got a video?, get it out there!
> vlogblaster.com
> > > sets you up with accounts for the most popular video submission
> > > services out there, AND uploads your video for you, Blast your
> vlog
> > > today!"
> > >
> > > Cons-
> > > 1. A 30mb would eat up a ton of server space on the WEB, in an
> > > example a 30 mb file uploaded to
> > > 2. The machine running the application, the content providers
> > > computer OR the server that the application os run on, would have
> > > all it could do for the better part of an hour. OR the Vlogger
> > > community could build a SETI type network to handle such tasks.
> > > 3. Script would have to written for each video upload service.
> > >
> > > Personally I see choice two as the only option, I think that it
> > > would be reasonable to suggest that 5 services could be
> targetted,
> > > with more development slated for the future.
> > >
> > > Now I know for a fact that I currently consume in the range of
> 150mb
> > > of server space in lala land for just ONE 30mb video. Each and
> every
> > > day. Because it has to get uploaded to so many places. This
> could be
> > > bad in the long haul... Liberals against server space... video
> > > wasteland... I can see the march on washington now.
> > >
> > > Google video, akimbo, youtube, stupid videos, cnet, and MANY
> more I
> > > am sure I a missing some big ones here... your help as to which
> five
> > > could be targetted would be helpful.
> > >
> > > I look forward to your thoughts, and suggestions on whether such
> a
> > > service is feasible, or even if it already exists...
> > >
> > > Now, I did not sign up as a vlog week 2006 participant, but I do
> > > however, do a daily video anyway, I plan to in the spirit of this
> > > week do a weekend edition of unzappedtv... you will not however
> see
> > > me in the shower or bathtub.
> > > Our First coorespondant from argentina is on the show today,
> with a
> > > funny commercial that FORD is running...
> > >
> > >
> > > PEACE OUT!
> > > Jason
> > > http://www.unzappedtv.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Me: http://michaelverdi.com
> > R&D: http://evilvlog.com
> > Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org
> > Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org
> >
>
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